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When did Legolas do or accomplish *anything* except that which the author intended? Some of this comes down to some uncertaintly on my part about to what extent "gamist" just means telling the players a story. Legolas never fell into a pit and took damage either unless the pit were...

What "great marksmanship"? Even a complete idiot can fire into a crowd of people at his enemy and be assured that he never hits anything other than his intended target or empty space. So at what point would the rules really be "allowing you" to do what you describe. IMO it seems like it would...

Your judgements about my motives are probably not any more accurate than your understanding of my arguments. I really hope that you'll take my comments as a good faith effort to discuss this situation. I have nothing to gain from convincing you of anything that's worth not being honest about...

Yea, I'm a little rusty. :) As I reread my post it turns out to be less informative than it was in my head. It's not good games design that objects with real-world equivalences (like bow) function somewhat like their real-world counterparts? Falling into a pit and taking damage probably...

An effective archer, to me, is one that uses the weapon where appropriate. If anything is stupid, it's the idea that shooting into a battle between some monsters and your friend carries with it no risk of striking your friend. Though the concept of "Precise Shot", the "dire flail" of feats, is...

As this concept has been alluded to several times, I would like to point out that to the degree that the rules already prohibit the hypothetical rule abuse, then there is no issue. To the degree that WotC has defined "flanking" or whatever sufficient to preclude the BoR then I have no issue -...

As I've said before though, there are all sorts of things that exist "in your mind" and in any other DMs or game designers. But DnD is a shared experience and IMO the DM needs to respect the rules interpretations of polite players who have an honest difference of opinion. Ultimately, of...

If one interpretation of a rule is as equally logical as another, then it's simply a matter of the DM establishing what he believes the correct interpretation is. It's not up to the DM to have options about the players intelligence who suggested an alternative interpretation. In the specifics...

Aha! See now we're getting more into what I really think is the subtext here. JohnSnow's argument about the specifics of the flanking rules doesn't really do justice to the issue - exhibit A is your example regarding King Conan, which has nothing to do with an erroneous and illogical...

Since, in the example you give, you've already established exactly what the rules are regarding flanking, and established exactly why the rats don't qualify, then I don't see what the problem is. If a feat said "you get +3 to attack rolls with an axe" and someone tried to claim the bonus while...

KidSnide indeed! :-) Getting +20/.../+20 against a demon isn't the same thing as wearing a coat hanger for pants at all! There's nothing stupid about finding a way to get +20/.../+20 against a demon, whereas a coat-hanger around your waist probably doesn't do much useful. So I don't see the...

I think the defensiveness I've seen in some of the posts ("I'd do such and such to any player that even thought about putting a rat into a bag") IMO is indicative of people who *don't* believe that they are logically on solid ground. There's no reason to be so insecure otherwise. If it's...

Humans (and probably dwarves) are tool using creatures. IMO it's a bad idea to somehow think that it's sufficient to rely on DM blustering and guilt-trips to keep characters from acting intelligently. If a bag of rats, handful of pebbles, long stick, etc. is sufficient to cause some undesired...

I would suggest that you will always find that people have a difficult time accepting the universal truth of something that's largely a theoretical construction of someone's imagination. Specifically: So you say. The objective truth/falseness of this is not obvious to me. I would never...

Actually IMC no, that's not the case at all. If you jump off a cliff, the damage you take is not going to be level-appropriate. What I have is a set of objective guidelines (in this case "1d6/10 ft") and I apply modifiers (ex. "+2d6 becuase you're landing on glass"). Whether you're 1st level...

Theoretical - I'd be quoting chapter and verse if it were otherwise.

Ok - well I'm not honestly trying to throw you off. Obviously there is a difference between throwing a rock and using a social skill. But there's also a difference between throwing a rock and climbing a wall. So IMO the relevant question is what are the *significant* differences between...

Well the rules don't really tell you what the DC is for anything in 3E. At best you get a chart with general circumstances (ex. "the wall is slippery") matched with a general target number, and some suggestions for possible modifiers. And I'm not arguing that it should be different. And it...

I'm assuming that you'd have to know something quantifiable about the abilities of both participants in any sort of skill challenge situation. To the degree that the succubus' skills here are well defined, then I don't see what the issue is and I'd have no objections. It's the case of the...

The first paragraph seems to contradict the second in the case of the mistress being a PC! Again, I don't seem to find the distinctions that you make to be as well-defined as you seem to believe. IME PCs get around to doing pretty much everything NPCs try to do - whereas apparently you're...