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A thing to consider is that one could be (to use the actual D20 modern classes) a Smart hero with an high Charisma OR a charismatic hero with an high intelligence (and related skills, unless you go into details it would be hard to see the difference. That flexibitiy is one of the thing I loved...

No, I'm not looking forward to it, I love D20 modern and if Wotc do it the 4e treatment will almost certainly ruin it for me.

Well, on this I totally agree, the OP examples are -with all respect- bad examples for Skill Challenges. As I've asked before, what if the player rolled and succeded a thievery check to disable the trap before to have enough success to win the challenge? . The problem is exactly that those...

While I don't disagree with you, I think here we are enetering the insidious ground that are personal tastes, I think the preparation for battle works better if abstracted (just the preparation, not the battle itself) something like (for example) if you win the challenge you start the battle...

These are some good points, I think that as a rule of thumb if you can approach a challenge with a round-by.round approach maybe the old way are still better to handle it. Skill challenges on the other hand, being abstract, works better with more abstracted scenarios, for example there is a...

Just a question. If Mike here had rolled a thievery check and rolled a 20 what would you have made?

Exactly, they cursed them with a ritual. In 4e rituals do EVERYTHING!!! :D I wonder, what would it mena in a 4e setting if you call someone an angel. Certainly isn't a nickname you want to use with your girlfriend. :)

A ritual? ;)

No I think they killed thier god because he did something that they didn't like (i.e, forgive someone that wronged him) And now all the other gods live in fear of their angels but can't get rid of them because they are afraid they'll turn on them if they try.

I think (and I could be wrong) that he mean that monsters could affect NPC in a different way than how they affect PCs, for example, a medusa could petrify a commoner on the spot, no rolls required, but could only do "petrifing" damage on a PC, or just slow him or something like that because...

*Shrug* it would not be the first time than a Dragon article was wrong. But let's look at the "facts". a) Demogorgon is the prince of demons b) Demogorgon is not the most "combat" powerful demon in existence (or is it? Just because a demon can exist it doesn't mean it actually exist (i.e...

And about that thing about Demogorgon and the balors, I disagree, demogorgon don't need to be higher CR than a balor more than a king need to be higher level than his generals, the genral can ba a 15 level fighter veteran of the dwarves wars and the knig a 3rd level aristocrat, and the general...

You assume that constraints are always bad for creativity. This is not always true. And certainly is not true for everyone. There are those that like to build their own walls and there are those that like take the existing walls and paint them, put on a nice wallpaper, maybe open some extra...

I wonder how that works with dominatation. For example, let's say the warlord use Bastion of defense, a power that gives his allies a bonus +1 to all defenses until the end of combat, then one of his allies is dominated. He would still get that bonus?

Does this mean that any PC with bluff and diplomacy 15+ can seduce the king (or anybody else) and make him do whater he/she want?

That just because before 4e succubus had magical ways for ethereal travel and teleport. To capture one was very difficult, except maybe at high levels when you could do everything she can, only better . In 4e all you need to keep a succubi prisoner is a net and some strong rope, I strongly...

I don't remember if it was a rules or from some number of Dragon or just an home rule but i always played it that it depended on what you asked the subject to do. If it was something in the limit of reason he just thought it was his own idea, even if he could wonder why he did it, if it was...

Besied, IIRC someone mentioned that in 4e there would have been a ritual to drain magic items and use them to create new magic items.If that is true to know if a monster have magic weapons or not, is not exactly irrelevant.

Perfect? I'd say it make "4E sense", i.e. you can rationalize it, someway, but it is still weird.

It don't work like that. It CAN'T work like that. One of the holy rules of 4E is that PCs must always have something to do, every round, even if it is just rolling a save. A power that remove their free will for 24 hours, with no save? It doesn't exist. Expecially in the heroic tier.What the...