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Indeed. Like the Assasin PrC from the DMG, I think this would mostly be an NPC PrC - not that there is anything preventing a PC from taking it, but generally NPCs are more dedicated and hang around 1 area long enough to get fame as an assasin really would. Any resulting guilds would probably...

Aye, I don't have a problem using it in my game. And, for what its worth, thanks for creating this poll (even though I consider it a silly way to prove someone wrong/right, I think the comments helped boil the class down). My only peeve is that usually if something is so blatantly overpowered...

Re: Part is the Whole Neat, I think I had something like that for illusory bonuses, but yours is simpler and intuitive. Re: Body Serves Mind Neat, I like the change to +2 vs Transmutation. Re: Countermand Very cool. Re: Withstand Magics Tide Better than Slippery Mind (which is...

I know I'm not in any Cydra campaigns (:(), but for the Lower Resistance, Greater an interesting effect would be even if the SR blocks it, the SR is still lowered a percentage. So if it would lower by -20 if it bypasses the SR, maybe it only lowers by -5 if it doesn't bypass SR. This way the...

Oy Vey You're so right. At level 15 after presumably being a Rog5/Ass10 he can go back to rogue and eventually get his one special ability, at level 20. Nevermind that this PrC allows the assasin class (a rather general PrC) to be taken in the following combinations: Rog10/Als10...

Re: Weapon Mastery I'm assuming they already get Weapon Focus? An idea I had a while back (for a Weapon Master/Master at Arms type PrC) was giving broad bonuses. Something like: 1 Exotic Weapon Proficiency, Weapon Focus with all Weapons you are Proficient, Weapon Specialization with all Weapons...

This is our biggest disagreement. The rogue and its various ways to be played mean so much more than 'SA Machine' to me. They receive the highest skill bonus in the game with the biggest skill list, they are the only class to receive both "defensive" abilities in Evasion and Uncanny Dodge, and...

I guess my bafflement comes from the following: Rog6: +3 SA Rog5/Alt.Ass1: +3 SA Rog7: +4 SA Rog5/Alt.Ass2: +4 SA Rog8: +4 SA Rog5/Alt.Ass3: +5 SA Rog9: +5 SA Rog5/Alt.Ass4: +6 SA Rog10: +5 SA, Special Ability Rog5/Alt.Ass5: +6 SA Rog11: +6 SA Rog5/Alt.Ass6: +7 SA Rog12: +6 SA...

Those are all quotes from the implication that a PrC could get 10 levels of SA in one PrC. I'm curious what you think of this Alt Assasin is, power-wise. Alt Assasin Hit Die: d6 BAB: 3/4 Saves: Ref Good, Fort and Will Bad Requirements: Alignment: Any Evil Skills: Disguise 4 ranks, Hide 8...

30d6 over 15 rounds? A 15th level caster can deal 30d6 over 15 rounds with the level 2 spell, Flaming Sphere... (although it would cost a move-equivalent to maneuver the sphere to continue to hit things, they could still cast another spell in the round - same concept as Meteor Shower, but way...

Greetings Morris! I haven't posted in quite some time, but at one point I was in a (short) pbp Dusk game and I also remembering going through spells with you for a time. At any rate, here's some feedback for Meteor Storm: Pretty neat, but potentially expensive (too expensive?). First, I guess...

I share this opinion, but as has already been stated, by cherry-picking "roguish" PrCs you can actually out Sneak Attack that build. Since you seem to agree that it should have the highest potential, why are you seemingly averse to it getting more than 5 SA over 10 levels? Or was it simply the...

In other news, I edited the Alt (which, by this point, Im fairly certain is quite similar to what I had posted a few years ago). Any other Altssasins lurking around? Modular (or maybe flexible) PrCs good or not? Technik

True. In this case the DM (who is a god-like force in the game) would have to determine whether or not the character had truly changed. Evil characters do good things, its the motives that make them evil. If a character who had remorselessly killed someone to join an assasins guild and then...

Alt Assasin Hit Die: d6 BAB: 3/4 Saves: Ref Good, Fort and Will Bad Requirements: Alignment: Any Evil Skills: Disguise 4 ranks, Hide 8 ranks, Move Silently 8 ranks Special: The character must kill someone for no other reason than to join the assasins. Class Skills: As pg 180 DMG Skill Points...

I would guess there would still be a heavy penance, not to mention learning the rites of the faith, etc. And, regardless, if I (as the DM-Deity) believed it was done in a premeditated manner to gain some numerical advantage...let's just say it would be easier to continue to be evil and they...

I have a feeling if your poll had asked if a PrC could be balanced with +7d6 SA over 10 levels, the numbers would not be quite so skewed... ;) Technik

It is, actually, still game balance. But as you say, it is dependant on non-mechanical circumstances. Hypothetically in a fantasy game we can conceive a young man who gets enticed by a devil (or demon, etc) and sells his soul for power. What was the price of his soul? How do we mechanically...

I find it difficult to conceive of taking so many PrCs. Nevertheless I appreciate the story. What do you think about limiting the ability to take an extra sneak attack die to 1 time (meaning you could get a max of 8 SA, at the cost of one of the cooler 3rd-tier Assasin abilities)? 3 more SA is...

Perhaps it is my own moral view, but being evil and killing someone for no reason is a significant cost in the 'soul' of your character. First it rules out a large percentage of potential adventuring companions, and second it almost certainly makes you a target for any high-and-mighty groups...