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You might want to notice that some of us, who were angry, have posted in the orginal thread, not this one, where the apology is also posted.... But if you want responses here..... I still can believe he couldnt see it coming, given as smart as he says he is...a quick tour around various...

But really, you didnt see this coming? A quick look around the boards could see the hope building fast. He could have pulled the plug on it at any time. But its nice to see the apology, and take responsibility. Time to move on.

Well, they'll have cost themselves at least one customer. Intentionally poking a stick into folks by getting their hopes up on something thats a real sore spot for many folks wasnt my idea of something to be joking at or with.

I have to agree. LPJ your a jerk off for implying it was something else.

I really hope that he indeed bought up RC and other sinister properties, or worked out a deal to produce them. Otherwise its a poor joke.

Well lets be a bit fair to the folks that preordered shall we under Nick and sinister? While I have nothing against LPJ, It might be considered a bit of poor taste to tease and make the the announcement on the same april fools day that nick did after years of frustration of being lead on by nick...

Guess I have a good idea, and razor coast is coming. But how does that apply to other products promised?

Perhaps he should take his own advise, and those that followed his lead. It takes two to tango, and the R&D folks at release werent exactly kind in their past edition, nor are some of the 4e fans that argued as well. Its not all the non-4e players fault to not be "problematic". I dont seem to...

You should be a bit careful there using Goodman as a source for embracing the GSL. Looks like as of late, especially with their creation of their own old school game, they moved away from 4e and the GSL..... http://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?t=17553&page=3 quotes like discounting...

Clark was the GSL's BIGGEST cheerleader, especially here on Enworld. Many posts about it here if you want to dig them up. But by the length the GSL debacle release finally happened, and what it looked like, he did a meta cupla also here on enworld, basically saying that the naysayers of wotc/gsl...

There is 8 of us in our group. We have standing friday's unless the DM or 2 players cant make it. 6 are married, 3 have kids with a 4th expecting any day now(so we're on break). I dont think we have ever had a saturday or sunday ever. And holidays are right out since most have family stuff(like...

Except of course, WOTC was at the time already taking PR hits for a variety of things. Remeber canceling the magazines and the bad PR they had to deal with? Trotting out folks to calm the flames? Coming out and giving no GSL would have been simplier, but more costly- imagine the firestorm...

Some have recieved refunds, some havent. I've asked for refunds for all preorders(3 products) and havent gotten them yet.

Anyone thats followed the GSL/OGL license release before 4e came out, that wasnt a cheerleader could tell WOTC does NOT want 3rd party products with 4e. From the GSL's orginal relase, to its slow division, to wotc's delay in handing out the GSL to 3rd parties. They dont want other folks in...

Pretty much amazon is worthless. On top of that, WOTC does sell more then a few through direct chains(B&N) and Paizo has a subscription model. Neither which amazon takes into account.

Oh hell no. I had enough of that crap in 2nd edition. I dont want a system thats vague and needs help. 2nd edition needed ALOT of PUSP and was unworkable after a while. I think your vision is colored between 3.x/4e era and the 1st and 2nd one.

Ptolus is the top quality product. City of brass by necormancer games is nice.

Post ads online. Here and various gamer meetup places. Seriously, thats how I found my game that I've been playing in for 4 years. Answered an ad here on enworld.

And your ignoring evidence in front of your eyes. [quout] It was the talent of Mearls that was the primary draw, and I suspect had there been no OGL, Mearls would have eventually ended up at WoTC. I would have to say my "evidence" is greater than yours, as I am at least looking at the...

I certainly can. Without OGL 4e would probably not look like it does now. A new edition coming alont? Absolutely. New editionthat look slike 4e? Probably not. You have ZERO evidence that Mearls would have done so via a fanzine. In fact I'd hazard to say less then zero. Your just throwing stuff...