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Already discussed. His second reply-this was his first- came off much better.

I will also point out that when Facebook tried to change the terms to say they owned the pictures you put up on facebook, there was a huge outroar and they backed down from it. Yes, its a problem.

Alot of websites/webboards arent comercial enterprises. Which worried more than a few people. YOU may think its a tempest in a teapot, but I know more than a few that backed away from Gleemax becuase of it, becuase it wasnt clear on the nuts and bolts.

It didnt help that one of the terms of agreement was any material you put up there- story, characters, adventures, became their property. Thats didnt sit well with consumers.

Depends if its rules light or heavy for 4e. If its rules light I may just have to grab it.

Thats simply just your opinion. Some of us see it quite nicely as something new. And not just a coat of paint or a rehash of 3.5.....

Right. Its a one off, I dont see the consumers clamoring for lower priced PDF's based on this(and its not even out yet). I have no idea if its a dead end product, but frankly with Wotc shutting down their products at drive thru.....not sure if it will last.

Thats a yes and no there. As seen with Ptolus from Monte, if you actually have a quality product-the MSRP was $119, gamers will buy it. But too many products, thats WOTC's included, are simply not worth the cover price now. So saying Gaming is too cheap isnt the only problem. I have no...

I totally disagree with his use of Games workshop "raise rates every year even through the complaints". As I pointed out, one look at their reports, they've been losing slaes and decreased revenue since 2001 with a slight bump up in 2004 till I last read them in 2007....

True, but the other end of the spectrum is what the consumer is willing to pay for them(and of course the dead tree print version). If people are buying it at that price, great. If not.... There are more than a few people that have said they just dont value PDF's at all. Personally I see...

There seems to be a contradiction there. If people think PDF's are worth less then a print copy, then having a higher PDF price, instead of a lower one makes no sense either. The costs are already done with with the book. So what if people are cheap. There are some that arent going to buy the...

Same here...I have a ton of PDF's from Piazo from subscriptions but I never use them. Their a nice add on, but they have no value to me.

Part of teh orignial author's problem is that he equates the PDF and hardcover book as having the same value. They arent, and dont. I dont value a PDF the same as a actual book. I dont think anyone does.

unless of course there are still items I'm looking for or buying in the 3.x era. Or folks are still buying minis. Or other items a game store may carry. Am I relevant to Goodman anymore as a 4e buyer? No. However, am I/could I be to a game store? yes.

See thats not the impression I got reading it the first time through.

See, that makes much more sense when you add the word "now" to it.

Yeah, I'm kinda having a hard time believingthat 4e is several orders of maganitude bigger than 3.x was. That seems to be a stretch without some real numbers. That and the neagtivity on the net, and not the game store- that MIGHT be because those of us that arent going 4e stop going to game...

Niceto see Dark heresy getiing some props there.....

Because there is alot of fun to be had role playing with peronality quirks. Even when they get you in trouble, or the party. Currently my dwarven cleric is a bit flawed. The healer in full plate, but average/low Strength....he doesnt climb, swim or jump. Ever. So teh party has to help him get...

And how are you any better when you participate in it like your doing? You got yours, as you say. Your really not much better. Perhaps you should look at yourself for a moment. You need to take your own advice there about self centeredness...