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I haven't reached that part yet. Care to point a link? I want to skip the "it's humanocentric/xenophobic and that is good" part.

Kinda necroing, but the damage is obvious. They added dragonborn to the setting, the audacity!

I read on Reddit that the Greyhawk Wars were basically Gygax destroying the setting because he couldn't use it anymore, or something like that.

I think is more the Gygax stuff (stuff like racism, sexism, and that stuff he said), and the religious adherence to the old stuff in a belief (whether genuine or misguided) that "new is bad, old is good". The setting as presented is interesting, but as soon as one tries to add something new...

The skibidi toilets are real. They came from the Far Realm!

Not boring, but mechanically not as good as some of the other 5e races. In fact, they are among the worst races in 5e, mechanically speaking (at least, in their 2014 version), which would make people interested in mechanical advantages not interested in them. Something that I find funny, because...

They were designed with that combination in mind, yes (or at least, that's their 4e origins, that is from where the 5e dragonborn come). Well, I'm talking of recent surveys, they are still among the top 5. But yes, even after Tasha's they remained in the top 5, despite most of the flavor being...

They don't exist in 5e. There is a reason dragonborn are among the top 5 of the "most played races" of D&D, according to the D&D Beyond surveys. But as I said in another post, I just use dragonborn as an example of a modern race (and because, for some reason, old school DMs seem to hate them...

Oh, sure. But that was true even in the 80s. Everything can be ignored, even stuff from the 1980 folio. That's not the point here. The point here is that the option for these things to be in Greyhawk are there, for those who want them, in an official manner. That's what people doesn't seem to...

And are under no obligation of ruining the experience for those who decided to enjoy said retcons, either.

Adding a line saying "here is a dragonborn community" (or goliath, or tiefling, or whatever) doesn't remove the humanocentrism of the setting. If I understood this @Snarf Zagyg article well, so as long as the humanoids play second bananas to humans, the setting will be ok. And really, an...

Wasn't the intention of the setting being "the basic setting" to start homebrewing D&D, even back then in the 80s? If a setting intended for that is unable to adapt to the new trends of D&D and accept the change of paradigms in race/species development, then yes, is bad, because it cannot adopt...

Well, I never played in the original setting, so I wouldn't know if the feel changed or not. But you still have your old Greyhawk (with all its racism, sexism, xenophobia, and all that Gygaxian stuff) in your old books, and nobody can take that from you. Just leave the young ones enjoy their...

And the DM's Guild is open to them, as well. There is nothing stopping them now to share their version of Greyhawk with the rest of us.

Does the setting breaks because they added dragonborn to it? If that is the case, the setting was bad to begin with and needed rework.

Yeah, it was interesting to read, but in the end it can be sum it up to "new is bad, old is good". And sure, people like what they like, but this new Grewhawk is supposed to be done to attract new people. We should accept that the new things are going to be part of Greyhawk now.

This is what I was talking about the other day. And this guy is polite, I grant him that... https://ageofgreatsorrow.wordpress.com/2024/11/06/entirely-unsolicited-grognard-opinions-on-the-world-of-greyhawk-in-the-2024-dd-dungeon-masters-guide/

While I live in a country were each region of it is completely different than the other, culturally and ethnically. Each community is so different, that even if we talk the same language, some words have different meanings depending on the region. If you go from the north to the south, you may...

Better than nothing, but still not what I consider useful setting building instruction. I don't know if I have a different perspective about this for living in a multicultural, multiethnic country, but I think describing how the different peoples living in the described region would have been...