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Re: Birth and Labor, 2nd draft For an unassisted birth this seems awfully lethal. An awful lot of such women are going to be Com1/Con 10's. She will die on a 5 or less--in other words, 25% of the time.

We are still facing the same problem--the formula either makes for no failure chance whatsoever (if you consider a 21 to be impossible) or a 1 in 400 chance no matter what (if you consider a 20 to always hit). High modifers are *NOT* a solution as the formula breaks down.

Hey! What's up with fertility modifiers for post-menopausal women? Their fertility is *ZERO*!

I was trying to restrict it so it only is useful for sexual purposes. See the gripe about the sex toy spell--it's got plenty of non-sexual uses that are too powerful for a level 0. The idea is to get a specific creature instead of just a generic one, and a bit better than the base spell. It...

Yeah--I've been batting it around for a while and never really been happy with it. The idea is if the guy is going to act like a pig--make him one.

Wrayven, I like your spells. How about some more: Greater sex toy: Sor/Wiz 1 Range: Close Duration: 1 hr/level Save: No SR: Yes Instead of simply creating an arbitrary sex toy, it creates a copy of a nearby creature (or the caster). The copy has the stats the target currently...

Some more thoughts on withdrawl and Veteran's Knack: How about: It's totally effective at preventing ejaculation inside the female. However, penetration without climax still has a 10% chance of requiring a pregnancy roll.

Originally posted by Death By Surfeit A) In a conception roll, a 1 is always a failure and a 20 is always a success. This stops imbalances, and holds true to the eccentricity of such a process. Perfect contraception (or conception) is solely the domain of high level magic, and is unavailable to...

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: All in favor of cutting down rolls I know people *SHOULDN'T* use the information to apply to reality, but I still find myself uncomfortable with a game mechanic that supports a common misconception. I do agree that a disclaimer where it is presented would...

Re: Contraception Sociology Sidebar (first Draft) The problem is that this is *WAY* out of line with other spellcasting prices--I doubt it would work that way. Instead, perhaps it's a level 1 spell, AOE: all willing creatures within one consecrated area. The spell is...

Re: Re: Re: All in favor of cutting down rolls So? Make a high quality version of the pill. There are plenty of teenage players--and too many think that withdrawl is effective. Don't reinforce that!

Agreed. The rest of us can lobby our positions but there are only three votes.

Re: All in favor of cutting down rolls Incidently--veterans knack shouldn't work perfectly. Being 100% effective in not ejaculating inside does not give 100% effectiveness at preventing pregnancy. I do agree that magic is the real answer--but note that once the characters use...

What do you do when the number becomes 21?

Trying to incorporate all the methods of contraception into the base roll runs a big problem: There are only two rolls maximum. This gives a maximum odds of 1:400. Thus you either accept that sufficient stacking means no failure chance (by saying that a 21 simply can't be rolled) or you say...

You apparently missed my second post--I realized there was a 6th category--things which prevent sperm production or render it ineffective. I don't think you'll find any in your book. I've only heard of one that we don't have any real data on. It's passed FDA safety testing but nobody's...

Consider: FDA requirements for the use of thalidomide are sterilization/menopause/abstinence or two methods of birth control. In a fantasy game, without modern quality control, none of the mundane contraceptives will be all that great. The only sure-thing way of preventing babies is magic...

Re: Cascading rolls? You could do it, but I don't think it's that much of an issue. Remember, for a human you'll only be making rolls 6% of the time--and that's assuming there's no foolproof magic involved. The problem with doing it this way is that one roll is limited to...

Originally posted by Sorn I'd say "stack" is the wrong term for the Miss Chance. Good point--they act independantly. Example... Linda knows she is going to have fun with some random guy in town. Before she leaves, she applies olive oil, inserts a gnomish cervical cap and vaginal...

Re: As far as the contraception thing goes... After all, conception isn't all that likely. Using the revised table, humans have only a 6% chance. You only need to make the contraceptive roll if conception is indicated--only 6% of the time. No big deal. Also, beyond low...