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so much table space. I'd have to clear out the spare bedroom, buy a ping pong table and a couple of side desks. It'll never happen. Which is a shame cos a few years ago I got a second hand copy of World in Flames at a con sale. All the expansions, all the counters unpopped. I'll never play it...

I've played a few games of the old Avalon Hill Dune. Probably try to get another going sometime soon, but adulting makes scheduling difficult. Ones I would play if I could are World in Flames (WW2) and Empires in Arms (Napoleonic.) But ideally they require 5-7 players and lots of spare time.

LOL. I'll be honest - guessed that that was the reason they were fighting.

I do have to say Mr Mastermind and Monster Mastermind are kinda... terrible names. But I kinda like that.

Oh yeah, the art in the FASERIP stuff was great. Wasn't it by actual Marvel artists? So I'm just perusing the Icons adventures on DrivethruRPG. Gotta say, they all sound fun and very comics.

I agree, HERO doesn't have the granularity if GURPS. But you can still make the low power ranges work. It's just that there's going to precious little difference between, say, a goblin and a hobgoblin. Or a low point PC and a goblin. But speaking of GURPS and granularity - at least one genre...

I've never used a published adventure for supers. The few I've read have left me with a general feeling of "meh." The old FASERIP adventures that I've read, Ragnarok and Roll, Time Trap, and one or two others, really weren't very good. Poor layout, confused plots, unispired set pieces. I do...

All the supers games I've been involved in have been the full gonzo. I'd actually like to try a more limited campaign, like an all mutants campaign, for a change of pace.

I'm fond of the older, more fantastical aspects from Celtic myths. In those Arthur's knights are always travelling back and forth to Faerie and dealing with strange beings. I think it's a trope that would mesh well with the Mists of Ravenloft, with Ravenloft obivously being Faerie. Playing up...

Ahhh. Yeah, I see where you're coming from. Yeah, I'm not gonna rewrite an adventure that doesn't come up against a PC's, um, narrative edges*. Or if I feel I'm making a legitimate riff on a PC's story, that doesn't go against the tone of the game, I'll push back against pushback. Coz, I might...

I'm okay with players vetoing some things. Like my example with secret id... (was that this thread or the other one?) ... if it turns out that I, as GM, have grossly misunderstood what a player was thinking... Odds are I'm going to change to meet the player.

I think getting buy-in from the players is important to everyone having a fun game. And one way to get that is to ask players to contribute to the setting. Exactly what this looks like varies depending on the game and the players. e.g.: for a no holds barred supers game I'd expect more...

Yes.

I admit I never noticed rules against multipowers in multiforms. I guess that was my personal bias applying blinkers...

Agreed. In fact I'll go so far as to say any game where the players are going to contribute meaningfully to world building should include veto power for the players. It's a group game. :cool:

As for multiform power armour - I'm totally for it. My best, by which I mean most elegant and well thought out, Champions character was a multiform power armour type.

@Thomas Shey I didn't know 6th ed had gone and gotten a hero point system. I haven't actually read the 6th ed rules except for Fantasy Hero Complete, which I admit I only skimmed. But I have definitely borrowed some 6th ed concepts for my homebrew HERO. e.g. got rid of figured characteristics...

That flaming headed monster is no respecter of Klimt. Or possibly a huge fan who wants to drape themself in his work. :unsure:

Really? I'll have to track it down.

As folks have said above, player buy in is essential. The group needs to sit down and work out what the game style is. A discussion about what tropes are in use and the way they are expected to play out is important. E.g. secret IDs. Yes or no? And if yes, what's the fall out for the secret...