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I said "frequently." I can't say "always" because that's too definitive, but most of the time a loss of hit points is narrated, and almost always as an actual hit that leaves a mark.

Because the admonition from hits/=hits crowd invariably points to "stop narrating the hit as a hit, and all your problems are solved." Yes. Whenever anyone like me expresses an intense dislike for super-fast mundane healing, the answer is invariably along the lines of "stop describing every hit...

Using my golf umbrella, I just did just that. I could hit a target about 6 feet away, so from the back of one 1yd square to the back of another 1yd square. Or, if using current D&D rules, from the front of one 5ft square to the back of another 5ft square. Honestly, it probably wouldn't bother...

Thanks for the clarification. The word "naive" is often used as denigration. In any case, here's the closest thing to a definition of a hit point that OD&D provides. It's in the third LBB, page 35. HEALING WOUNDS: As noted previously, energy levels can only be regained by fresh experience, but...

Please, if you're going to go for the personal attack crap, be a man about it. Own it. Don't pussyfoot around with backhanded snide personal attacks. To hit something is to make physical contact with it. The definition of points in this case is a measure of something. What are those points...

Yes, and I think we agree on that piece. A 10 point sword slash against a piece of wood would be narrated differently from one against a PC. Which would be narrated differently than one against a monster. And is different still depending on how many hit points are left from the maximum, etc. My...

That is indeed the implication. There's nothing to indicate otherwise, and in the absence of another definition, the dictionary default is the correct one, no? But there is no definition at all. And, as I just said, in the absence of another definition, we should default to the real definition...

I posted in another thread 2E's definition of hit points and OD&D's definition, both of which are not the same as 1E's and are no less valid. Indeed, I'd posit that OD&D's are more definitive, if we're going to play that "Gary said" game. The definition is a combination of luck, skill...

No. I mean that HP and spells should recover at the same rate. I do think I could go with a long rest in a safe place granting HP, but I don't think that spells should be forced into the same recovery time frame. I'd still question if all HP came back naturally in one's night sleep, even if...

Right, and my point in posting in this thread was explaining why they don't work for me, and what it would take for them to work for me. Hopefully the modularity buzzword that gets bandied about makes it so that I don't have to work too hard on fixing them to my preference, but if not, if they...

You're the first person I've seen trying to argue that overnight recovery of all HP is semi-realistic. And yet there are physical wounds that appear (black eyes, broken noses, cuts, boxed ears) and boxers do die from time to time, and many of them suffer permanent even debilitating injuries. And...

Fair enough. They don't won't for me as written in 4E or D&DNext.

jadrax - Those aren't the only two options. You could make the woodland critter even below the base power. You could have a house-cat that is effectively a minion. You could not sweat the small stuff and just leave it out of the mechanics entirely. There are other options. And of the two you...

I don't see how that is any different from Joe Schmoe just reading the PBP as it's being played. So, I can have a thread that is every post with every mechanic we discuss and use in game, and that's fine, but if I copy and paste that whole thread as one post even if I do it in the same thread...

I do. As I noted in several examples above. I do narrate to the capabilities of the group. I don't narrate myself into a hole. Or, at least, until 4E I didn't. 4E changed how healing works from every other edition (even if Gygax's hit points are abstract, the healing rules just didn't support...

Exactly. That's what I didn't get. Unless they mean PBeM. Which is a whole different animal.

Yeah. I thought the same thing...

No, the enforcement of no sleeping in a dungeon. Characters would barricade the door or use "rope trick" or Leomund spells and rest anyway.

Those are problems with spell power balancing, not spell availability balancing.

Yeah, I don't buy that. He might hit harder (a la the barbarian's rage), but he's more likely to be knocked out in round 2 than in round 1. The punishment builds over time. Yes, and I don't like that. Except that didn't really happen, at least not in the actual play of the game (and definitely...