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Very true.

I'd also like to mention the commercial strength of many monestaries. Viniards(sp) and breweries being the most common. I think there were a few in the textile business as well. Many monestaries had acquired great tracts of land over their long histories and made fortunes renting it to...

Thanks Jack. I'm noodlin over your ideas. I did think up a couple for the old summoner..... what do you all think. Quicken the Call: Prereqs: School and Greater School Focus Conjuration, 5 ranks Knowledge Planes Benefit: You may cast your Summon Monster spells quicker (as a standard action)...

OK.... as a player that "covey of elf maidens" thing SCREAMS set up. I used Death Spell once to screw up a major summoning..... it needed to be live..... he, he... fond memories. Limper Laws of Gaming One: Kill all potential romantic intrests in game 80% will stab you in the back the other...

Suggestions are always welcome I was hoping to have 3 or 4 per Specialty.

I will admit a certain "inability" to spell my native tongue. In this you are correct..... but gosh darn it my mathin skilz r gud. rounser he's posting from our soil.... he's one of us.

Jack Haggerty, Not yet no bolt of inspiration has struck for the Abjurer yet..... but it will.

Harlock, I didn't know Texas (aka the center of the universe) had 49 stars?

Thats the spirit! Bugaboo LIVES! Roland Delacroix..... what can I say Jealosy will get you no where. I believe about half of all players DM as well.

One sentance.... "There was much conflict to be had by all."

Thank you SableWyvern, I chose the word "Shaft" to see if more people read my post that way....:D

Falc my hypothosis was based on the simple fact that the DM thread was getting 2-3 posts for each one the player did.

Two feats at levels 4 and 8(from a list you think accents a profesional killer) and 8 skill points per level

Just the first installment of feats for the specialist wizard.... rather than Meta magics and Item creation for wizard bonus spells I thought a little more flavor would be nice. So for those bonus feats you could take Meta or School feats.... These are the first of the school feats I've...

nemmerle you can do it! The sum of human knowledge can be reduced to a sentance.... if you only try.

As I suspected.... DMs in general do not concider the player important.

SHARK! How is life treating you? I don't think I've ever had a player seriously want a Paladin.... I've had many calls for Divine Champions but not for Paladins. For Champions it all depends on god, culture, alignment, and maybe a few other things but mostly those.... Looks like you've had...

..... from Munchkins it was born. By the way LAST month was Munchkin month... this month the topic of choice is Players vs DMs in any flavor imaginable.:D

How was it that Crothian did this......? Oh yes! Owww I *bumped* my knee.

Couple of things One bad LostSoul are you advocating classless systems?:) Oni may I suggest looking at Chart Master's magic system.... its been many a year since I read it but I KNOW it had some angles on what your trying to do. Also for inspiration the old Players Option Spells and Magic had...