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    I don't get what you'all are saying

    That is a meaningless distinction, and one that really doesn't actually add anything to the discussion. I've played in and DMed for plenty of groups that had characters that could be described as "sub-par". Those characters added a lot of fun to the game, and in many cases were among the most...
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    I don't get what you'all are saying

    Sure. I don't think your objections carry much weight though, at least not from my perspective. Yes. And? So it is possible to build a character who is sub-optimal. Why is that bad? Some people like that sort of character, and aren't always focued on seeing if they can get the most plusses. I...
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    DM refuses to switch; players want to

    I think you just contradicted yourself here. If a group of players wants to play a different game, but none of them are willing to step up and GM, then I have no sympathy for them if the GM they are looking to says "I don't want to run that game system". GMing is work. It is a labor of love for...
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    I don't get what you'all are saying

    I think you have accidentally hit on one of the main reasons some people (including me) react negatively to 4e. Pretty much each edition of D&D since OD&D has seen an increase in flexibility and an opening of options. In OD&D, halflings and dwarves were all fighters, elves were all...
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    Tucker's Pirate Kobolds

    Most types of undead would lose the breath weapon, which, I think, would make the dragon turtle far less useful.
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    4E is for casuals, D&D is d0med

    Double post.
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    4E is for casuals, D&D is d0med

    Umm, Hommlet is an old school module, published in about 1982 or so. I've been looking at it (actually, at the T1-8 supermodule) to convert to kick off my new 3.5 campaign, and I've really noticed how sparse the module is in terms of NPC development - most don't even have names other than...
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    Tucker's Pirate Kobolds

    I would have a band of kobolds led by a leveled kobold sorcerer or two and allied with a dragon turtle. Emphasize their reptilian heritage with the alliance. Have the dragon turtle wait below the surface while the kobolds sail up on the target, then they signal and the turtle comes up and...
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    DM refuses to switch; players want to

    Well, no. The GM is generally more critical than the players - the GM puts in more work, and players are (to be perfectly honest) more easily replaced in a game group. Further, there is really no point in trying to get someone to GM a game that he doesn't want to run. If the players don't want...
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    DM refuses to switch; players want to

    Perhaps someone who likes 4e could volunteer to DM.
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    The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

    Not 'real life" (but when does that truly count in D&D discussions), but the Gondorian archers in the LotR movies wore heavy armor. The only Gondorian soldiers that didn't wear heavy armor were Faramir's guys, and they weren't the only archers in the army. Of course, it is Hollywood armor -...
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    The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

    Well, it is Sutherland. And the cover of the blue book edition. That's probably it.
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    The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

    Sure it does. If he were a melee guy, he wouldn't be wasting his time with a bow, he'd be running into melee with his sword at the ready. His opponent is on the ground, the bow is a much less effective weapon in that edition, and movement rates are so large that he could cover the ground shown...
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    Eulogize your favorite slaughtered sacred cow.

    So, by "much better" you mean "exactly the same"?
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    Eulogize your favorite slaughtered sacred cow.

    Vance isn't gone. Just renamed. Now, with "per encounter" and "per day" powers for every class, we have Vancian abilities for everyone.
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    The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

    Quadruple fail. The character in question is on the cover of an edition of rules that didn't have any armor-based limitations on how much of his Dexterity bonus he can apply to his defense.
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    The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

    The one thing that seems to have consistently been the source of complaints in D&D, through all editions, has been the Vancian magic system. These complaints were never universal, but there has always been some people who have disliked it, tried to replace it, or otherwise modify it. And the...
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    Robert Asprin, R.I.P.

    A notice is on the front page of Locus Online: http://www.locusmag.com/
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    What's your take on the Leadership feat?

    Here's how I play it: A PC can get followers and assistants by hiring them, joining an organization and rising into a position of power within it, founding an organization, building a castle and so on. These followers are normal NPCs, and may or may not be loyal and reliable. They will probably...
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    The Infamous Spiked Chain Madness

    And, if I remember correctly, when a Master of Chains used the spiked chain as a double weapon, he gave up the reach attribute of the weapon. The choice was, essentially, extra attacks, or reach, but not both. Other than the Master of Chains special ability, the spiked chain has never been a...
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