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Ok, so stop telling me how 2E was not a failure and start telling me how great 2E was financially. Tell me how it saved WOTC. Tell me how it was a great business success. Saying 2E didn't cause the failure and saying it was a success are fundamentally two different things. While you are at...

Grave Cleric ability Path to the Grave reads: "Starting at 2nd level, you can use your Channel Divinity to mark another creature’s life force for termination. As an action, you choose one creature you can see within 30 feet of you, cursing it until the end of your next turn. The next time you...

I am not ignoring it and they are not "very limited" because the resource is only used on a sucess. So stealth is a bit misleading because a Rogue at 2nd level can use a bonus action to hide. So they can and do use it regularly in combat without using an action. You are talking about 1 skill...

Fine it is unrelated and the edition still failed. If a hail storm and flood trashes my Corvette, it isn't because my Corvette was flawed, but my Corvette is still wrecked and it is not correct to say it is a good car. It is exactly like that. If a person dies from being hit by a car at...

No they weren't. The first 2E adventure I converted was Dragon Mountain and I think i needed to change every single monster in it (except the custom monsters). To start with even when the stats were exactly the same the mechanics were not. Kobolds in 2E for example have a 20 THACO, they need...

Exactly. So the new edition failed. Perhaps it would have, but it didn't. If it had happened and there was no 2E then 2E would not have been a failure or a success, it would not have existed. As it is IRL though 2E did exist and it bankrupted WOTC

I just don't get why Hunter's Mark has become so central to the concept of Ranger. I see a lot of concepts about "fixing" ranger that involve changes to Hunter's Mark or changes to concentration for Hunter's Mark or whatever. IMO if you really want to "fix" Ranger the first thing you should do...

That is a fine "what if" but those claiming success are basing that claim on what did happen every time WOTC released an entirely new edition, not what could have happened. In addition to overprinting, there were serious quality problems with 2E as well. The most famous example is the Jungles...

Yes exactly ... THEY SURVIVE. This was not an option though and it was specifically not an option because of the 2E material they printed. That was part of the move to a new edition. That is the whole reason they did it - more sales.

But it is not low volume that killed TSR it was overprinting. 1E low volume sales would have been enough to sustain the company and were enough to sustain the company until they way overprinted material associated with 2E. Buying back the printed prducts and gauranteed print runs with the...

Yes I converted a lot of modules from 1E to 2E and it was difficult due to the changes to the monsters. I've also converted 5E to 2024 and that is a cake walk in comparison. I am not the one who made the statement, but it was a "successful business tactic" Make that any metric you want -...

It would have stayed afloat for far longer if no 2E content at all was published. It was all the content that was printed and not sold that bankrupt them. It doesn't matter, in a business context saying something is not a failure is not the same as saying something is successful. WOTC did...

You can not use Bardic Inspiration unless you have it already and a Bard can't give himself inspiration. Reliable talent is online later in the game and at that point Rogues start competing with fighters, but before that fighters are better at skills In tier 1 the fighter and the Rogue have...

Yes but the save against Frightened is not with disadvantage and it only lasts one round. With an EK you make it with disadvantage and if you keep hitting him he continues to make it with disadvantage. Push can be used by any fighter, but compared to Dissonant Whispers it only works on Large...

I find the opposite to be the case. Combat is more fluid at low levels because there is less lost to trying something different. Level 3 it is a lot easier to use oil or Caltrops or improvise an action than it is at later levels, because the cieling for these items is relatively constant...

All my builds are "online" at level 1, there are significant jumps and features that happen, most of them also don't get the level 5 boost until later than level 5.

Fighters beat everyone at level 2-4 at skill checks. The key for the fighter is the Tactical Mind is only used after you fail the check and it only consumed if you make the check after failing it. Spells do not offer that sort of flexibility. Comparing spells: Enhance Ability is the only...

With two short rests at level 2-5 expertise is only better if you roll 11 or more checks in the skills you have expertise in. That is not a few, it is a lot. That is not close at all as I don't remember a single session where we rolled 11 checks in 2 skills in a day. Right it is a Warrior...

I don't think those class changes are very meaningful. It has the same fundamental problems of the regular Ranger class: over-reliance on a weak 1st level spell. Generally you are going to want to cast annd concentrate on something better than Hunter's Mark at 13th level and at 20th level. I...

I played 1E and 2E extensively. Parts of it were backwards compatible (classes and PC facing stuff generally), but overall it was far less compatible than 5E to 2024 is. Ok did those sources call 2E a "success" People are changing the discussion and trying to hedge against the original...