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Not true. I see the word "optional" popping up all the time in the RC, and this is the antithesis of 4E. I know you're wanting to christen 4E with legitimacy borrowed from earlier editions, but it's just not there. Not okay. Don't tell people what they do or don't think. ~ PCat

Arguably the BECMI and AD&D ones are a bit different (e.g. no mind flayers, half orcs or flumphs in BECMI), and got recombined to an extent with 3E. 4E rewrites a lot of assumptions about the D&D universe and it's inhabitants, such that it's probably the most radical departure from the...

It's where the conversation went, and I can see a clear path from what I see as setting design problems with Eberron to problems with 4E's implied setting. From memory, Wyatt has his name on both as the main designer. And what I said about the design goals for Eberron is AFAIK true, we saw...

In theory, a DM doesn't "have" to do anything, but a dodgy core game can make that mostly theoretical. Make them optional, and the players your referring to would still be catered to. Alienating the audience who doesn't want the things in every campaign, and making D&D's implied setting hokey...

Trivia, you're grasping at straws. They've already kitchen sinked in everything else, like some cosmology change from the great wheel is going to matter?

Like that makes a difference.

Bollocks. It had a design goal of "everything in 3E D&D has a place here", and is the only setting designed that way (until perhaps 4E FR, who knows what they've done to that). It's kitchen sink by design, the whole competition was skewed to that artificial rule, and IMO it shows. Don't try...

Human, by the look of it. What's your point? Being clever are we?

:confused: You can't be serious. Art has no effect on how you envision a game? It never inspires you or helps you visualise possibilities for adventure or action, or a character? It never signals to you what the game is about? May as well ask "How can the words in the book affect immersion?"

The whole thing revolves around PC races, being present or not by default in all settings. You don't understand these distinctions, or they don't matter to you, so it is useless pointing them out to you. Unhappily for me, people like you are now in charge of D&D. Eberron is the only truly...

Probably because it's not what I said. I said it doesn't deserve a place in the core of any D&D milieu worth being called such. No problem with specific settings, but as a default for all settings it's a poor choice.

I find the art direction style of PCs just posing for the camera out of context in action poses to be bad form for D&D. It tells no story, doesn't suggest an adventure or world, and looks artificial and contrived, which is bad for immersion.

I don't think it's witty or clever, but I'll not give these contrived imposters the time of day by calling them by their poorly chosen name. They deserve mockery. Heck, I save to disbelieve that "they" exist as a core PC race in any D&D milieu worth a damn. Barney the Purple Dinosaur exists...

I think it's dishonest to use Gary Gygax's name to justify 4E. He didn't support it, and IMO with good reason. IMO, rather being the leader in defining genre that it once was, it is now something of a confused cypher, losing contact with the mythological resonance and strong archetypes it once...

I think there's a fundamental disconnect in your understanding of the nature of a wilderness exploration game, here. In a good exploration campaign, combats are not meaningless like a random encounter table, but more a meaningful part of the setting, like a lair of ankhegs or patrolling giant...

Clark and Lewis also didn't have to contend with a wilderness bristling with monsters ready and willing to eat travellers, for that matter. The nature of the D&D milieu calls for semi-regular violence in the course of exploration in a way that the real world cannot really match, except...

Please don't bring GNS into this thread. It doesn't apply here, it makes people think towards unmoderated extremes, and it has no useful definition that anyone agrees on.

Hey, you put that Steel Serpent back in your pants there, buster. And if you want to strike, join a union. For shame. ;)

You say this like it's a bad thing. :D I'd also suggest good old Arr-Kelaan Hexmapper for sandboxing purposes, no matter the edition.

No, there isn't. But why hamstring your sandbox campaign so you can use 4E when you could sandbox a lot more combat encounters in the same time with a faster playing D&D? There are other, potentially better suited options out there. Here's a link to the Rules Cyclopedia at amazon, for...