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I didn't experience B2 first. I went through other modules (such as "Eye of the Tralder") as the first real modules I encountered/ran. Later, when I found B2, read it, and DMed it, it so impressed me that I endorse it as the "if I had to pick one module to define D&D." My endorsement has nothing...

I miss Gary. :(

I didn't intend to derail the thread to another topic, so if others would like to continue the "video game vs. RPG" discussion, I'll be happy to join another thread.

Since I consider "silly" to be a Godwin, I'm tempted to ignore your question, but I'll give you benefit of the doubt. The ability to go "beyond the rules and script" by the adjudication of a game master of infinite possible actions and outcomes, unconstrained by anything other than the...

I've never played 4e, but if the players can still take actions using "descriptive action" (including parleying, bribing, etc) that fall outside of quantified menu of action choices given by the RAW, even if the whole session is combat, they are still playing a role-playing game. In an actual...

A role-playing game's "story" is what the participants make at the game table, and is infinite in possibilities. A video game's "story" is confined to the "adventure path" (often a linear "railroad") in which the player is really just a spectator to a predefined "script" of events set up by the...

Yes. There has been a genre of video game called "RPG" for many years, but such games aren't really RPGs any more than video game sports games are really the sports themselves. Other video game genres include Action, Adventure, Puzzle, etc (and combinations). In the video game world, a game...

Video games are not role-playing games.

I'm pretty sure "perpetual dungeons" used to be called campaigns. I'm all for bringing back this style of campaign.

I would actually like to go back on my absolute statement earlier. You could probably hand someone something like one of the Endless Quest books to give someone an idea of what the game is like. The Endless Quest books were one of my "formative" D&D experiences. Handing someone "pure" game...

Another, when men make a name of two names, whose significations are contradictory and inconsistent; as this name, an ‘incorporeal body,’ or, which is all one, an ‘incorporeal substance,’ and a great number more. For, whensoever any affirmation is false, the two names of which is composed put...

You don't hand someone anything to read to show them what D&D is . . .

Thirded.

Tell me there's no OTHER!

I skimmed some of the thread, and it sounds like the OP would prefer RPGs where the players have more mechanical influence on the game "narative" through various means. Torg, for example, allowed players to play cards that reflected "plot points" they wanted to encounter, on the fly, during the...

This thread reminded me that I always intended to run an adventure inspired by "The Shadow Over Innsmouth" but never got around to it . . .

In a "racial" accent. :p

I've found that many people that "play up" a "racial" role in D&D end up being like the fantasy equivalent of Carlos Mencia.

If you're playing a modern game (early 21st Century), I'd say the role-playing has been excellent and should be praised.

In short, no. You can still be playing a role-playing game if you don't go in for role-assumption or play-acting.