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The lore makes the game into DnD You can take the rules and make other games. Pathfinder and Star Wars and Esper Genesis. They ain't DnD While the lore should change and evolve over time, it should be iterative and evolve the lore and not toss out the old Otherwise it ain't really DnD anymore...

Wasn't that half the point of the setting? Classic horror monsters in D&D Feels like taking the dragons out of Dragonlance Was there any land that wasn't completely revised and is more or less the same as it was in the past? Or did all of Ravenloft secretly suck?

Right And it was impossible to do that without changing the darklord's name, gender and backstory

Should publish? Dragonlance seems like the big one. The novels were in print for years and are still common in book stories and libraries. It's very visible and people who might not be familiar with the game, might be aware of the setting There's a bunch of changes they could make to the...

In what ways is the new leader of Falkovia NOT a horrible fascist dictator? They're still an oppressively leader that kills people by placing them on pikes That hasn't changed. All they did was add zombies and flip the gender

Cause of that, I won't be able to not think of VAN RICHTEN'S GUIDE TO RAVENLOFT as DC's Snyderverse It really is an apt comparison

And because of that they needed to do ZERO HOUR and INFINITE CRISIS and FLASHPOINT and REBIRTH to "fix" things after the fact and roll back some of the changes

Keep as much of the old lore as possible. Change only what absolutely needs to be changed Advance the timeline rather than rolling it back 20 or 30 years Maybe don't shrink the lands down to one town, break apart the Core and erase all the past adventures and novels Dominic d'Honair is a creepy...

Imagine how it would feel if some new people took over DC comics, decided past Batman lore was lame and dumb, and rewrote it like GOTHAM Now imagine it was gaming and not comics, where reboots tend not to be undone after 5 years. That every future Batman story was GOTHAM inspired

You'd be surprised how not helpful posting a 42 page forum thread is to answering a question But the answer seems to be "they were boring" more than "they were problematic" Is there a single domain that WASN'T changed? One land that didn't have a major revision? Apparently, Ravenloft was the...

Cool. I find most of Greyhawk boring as hell Guess we can change that too

Why do you keep linking that site? They're garbage. Nothing but wild rumors and wild speculation It's not news. It's some rando's blog This "rumor" is entirely based on a single tweet: Which could mean a Marvel vs DC game OR Cause there was a MK vs DC game, it could be a MK vs Marvel. Or...

What was problematic about Vlad Drakov? About the three hags of Tepest? How bout Dominic D'honair? Hazlik and his original curse? How was the Dark Powers being a mystery a problem? Changing the Vistani sounds fine and the added diversity is all cool, but it's naughty word to claim all the...

Changing everything and not giving a flip about the existing fans worked out well for 4th Ed 🙄 It's one thing to change for social reasons. The Vistani and stuff. Sure. Don't need to insult people. That rude But to just change the lore because the current writers think all their ideas are...

I still see people whining about the EU erasure The 5thEd Ravenloft will undoubtedly take over because of the number of new people in the hobby. (It's what? 50% under 30?) And all the old guard won't "come around." They'll just be beaten down and driven out of the hobby. Replaced by younger...

That was my point. It made few changes despite being fifteen-years-old and everyone loved it, new and old They didn't need to rework anything to make a hit book

Don't know why this rubs me the wrong way. Just feels - I don't know - disrespectful The setting was dead for ten years (fifteen?) and those fans kept it alive. They wrote content for it on the Guild and kept running campaigns there And now, finally, there's a new setting book! But not for them...

Yes, because all those new players hated EBERRON: RISING FROM THE LAST WAR

Which was my whole point! 🤦‍♂️ Why update a book for a previous edition's setting if it's going to upset the hardcore fans of previous edition releases??? The players of the current edition will be happy with anything. They'd be just as happy with something that pleases the hardcore fans. It's...