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The other half-caster whom I argued were more martial while Artificers are more magical? Seems WAI to me. That gets back to wondering why we would presume that Artificers should do more damage at all. If your argument is that you don't think they provide enough support then as a support...

Yes. But that's still comparing spell slots to spell slots and ignoring Infusions to no Infusions. Why is anyone dying at all? I can't remember the last time I cast Raise Dead with a character and stopped wasting a slot learning it on Bards. Periapt of Wound Closure is available at 10th...

Not per spell cast. There's no difference. 2d8+5 HP on a Cure Wounds spell is the same. But not losing Faerie Fire to a concentration check with Mind Sharpener is up to 4 spells not lost to concentration checks that don't need to be recast. We're already taking the additional slots and...

I don't see it. 2024 has more defined uses for using those tools and how hard is it to use a Disguise Kit to create a disguise in game play? A Bard or Rogue can't gain Expertise in the Disguise Kit. Any Artificer who gains the proficiency gains the Expertise. The Skilled Feat grants skills...

Mediocre compared to what? Battle Smith is decent at combat. They have Extra Attack and extra damage via pet attack that has it's own turn. The Steel Defender has 2 + INT bonus + 5 * Artificer level HP and is easy enough to grant Thp thru Heroism and heal thru Mending. It also has a...

I said pet option. The pet is part of what makes the option decent in combat. I said they are more magical than Paladins and Rangers as a class. A subclass doesn't change the premise of the base class. The premise of the base class is artifice as implemented through magical infusions...

Artificers aren't competing with Clerics in skills. Bards don't have Expertise with tools either. They have an extra skill proficiency and Expertise in 2 skills plus Jack of all Trades. The Artificer cantrip Guidance covers against the Bard abilities until later and matches the Cleric...

Right now that's still how Artificers work, however. They have Tool Expertise. We can't examine who they they based on speculation over what WotC might change in the future.

Not really. That's a more martial option on a more magical class than Paladins or Rangers. That's like calling a Bard a martial class because of the College of Valor. I see the Battle Smith pet as a defining characteristic more. I am thinking there's more room for a 2024 pass than what I...

It's the same opportunity cost for either in taking Sleight of Hand when the only thing that does is give advantage to either, BUT the Rogue would need to take Sleight of Hand AND spend Expertise on it when Artificers get that Expertise free. Expertise isn't that large of a bonus until later...

Thieves' Tools still exist. Thieves’ Tools(25 GP) Ability: Dexterity Utilize: Pick a lock (DC 15), or disarm a trap (DC 15) Sleight of Hand as an applicable skill proficiency doesn't change that. It's still a tool proficiency. Rogues and Artificers both gain that tool proficiency with the...

Being a "half-caster" compared to a "full-caster" only limits access to higher level spells. The spells they share do the sames effects with the same DC formula. Comparing Artificers to Paladins and Rangers only reduces the "half-caster" label to meaningless because that label is the same for...

Battle Smith is already considered one of the best Artificer subclasses and a cantrip instead of an attack doesn't seem like a pet style ability. This seems likes it's neither necessary nor thematic to me. They already have Tool Expertise and Flash of Genius. The 2024 tool interaction with...

I don't think I would give Acid Splash as a bonus cantrip as opposed to giving a bonus cantrip that the Alchemist can select. Alchemical Savant adding INT bonus damage to Acid Splash as an AoE is already a boost and seems like a typical pick.

I would change the spells prepared mechanic to match the spelled prepared table for Paladins and Rangers. That's consistent with 2024 rules. I would update the language for armor from proficiency to training, but that's a minor detail IMO. I would remove spells from the spell list that don't...

I'm not sure bashing on 3e or 4e has any point beyond holding on to old biases and living in the past at this point. 5e and new 5e have elements from both that were adapted and is a good edition regardless of not being replications of those elements. NLG, I can still play any edition and I...

I'm thinking a Battlemaster with 5 Weapon Mastery choices, 9 Maneuvers, Tactical Master, and 3+ attacks every turn to apply them plus deciding to use a free d8 vs spending a d10 and the option to swap weapons while attacking has become plenty complex in daily gameplay.

Especially when we start applying Weapon Mastery and possibly the bonus feat mixed in the maneuvers.

A simple application of the Glyph method is Hex the previous night triggered the following morning. With a couple high enough slots the caster gains concentration-free Hex all day long to add to attacks by sacrificing a rat that next morning. That fits into the 10th level Valor Bard splashed...

If it's a Lore Bard anyway they can swap the other Magical Discovery from 6th level for CME at 7th level as an option over waiting for Magical Secrets at 10th level. They won't have a lot of slots for it yet but the option is there at 7th through 9th levels.