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Eh, debateable. Mythic Wizards have a lot more ways to break the game over it's knee than an 800 damage Fighter. Also, I'm pretty sure an optimized 3.5 Fighter would laugh at 800 damage being called broken.

Ok, so the Fighter's doing about a metric ton of damage. And the problem is....?

I never said Burning Hands was a particularly good spell, just as a back-up in case you fight undead or something, and I've already said before using a spell slot to prepare a spell like it or Fireball is just a waste since they're better spent on spells that simply remove the enemy from the...

Burning Hands then, it changes nothing about what I said. And I'm going by what the SRD says about Scribe Scroll, which gives nothing about a minimum time.

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Scribe_Scroll Wizards get Scribe Scroll as a free feat at level 1. Levels 1-3 are what I'm talking about as I mentioned a bit earlier. Assuming the Wizard's making a Scroll of Fireball at level 3, it'll cost spell level × its caster level × 25 gp, so (spell...

Very true, though I was mostly concerning with level 1-3 play there, when the casters are supposed to be in their "weak" phase.

That's really the Wizard's fault for not having a few scrolls of fireball or something. Damage is inefficient, yes, and they should never actually spend a spell slot actually preparing a damage, but again, they should at least have a scroll of fireball or two prepared just in case.

You know the Wizard and CoDzilla aren't really that hampered by that limitation. Clerics and Druids function as well as the Fighter does and the Wizard can just make a bunch of scrolls to bypass his spell slot limitation. Plus material components aren't that big a balancing factor and just turns...

People aren't asking that "mundane" be the same as magic, just that they have equivalent contribution opportunities and power level. That's also why I hate the word "mundane" in these discussions, they bring up the image of what any joe schmoe who with a pointy stick is capable of and then...

Typically the times I hear Fighters excelling over spellcasters at games is when the Fighter is MinMax McGee and the spellcasters are intentionally gutting their own spellcasting power, which doesn't exactly help the Fighter's case that the "simple" class needs to be a pro powergamer munchkin in...

Define "controlling someone"

True. As I've said, Clerics and Druids can, at the very least, match the Fighter's effectiveness in combat at level 1 Misleading argument, the animal companion's at least as good as the Fighter, so's the Druid once he's Wildshaped. And that's before he starts casting buffs on himself and his...

He never said it wasn't. He just said skeletons and zombies themselves were neutral, so the act of summoning them being evil seems wierd.

Bit of an unfair comparison though. What exactly is a Fighter going to be able to trip at level 18 that'll actually affected by it and not just teleport/fly away afterwards?

This is only true if you also discount every caster class in the PHB, and being the best when you eliminate half the competition doesn't seem to be very good a metric. Doubtful, core-only Druid and Clerics are still extremely powerful and much better choices than the Fighter. I'm not sure why...

Combat maneuvers=turns your spending not attacking. 9 times out of 10, any turns you spent tripping/grabbing/bull rushing enemies are turns better spent making them dead faster. This is also before getting into the penalties you suffer for attacking enemies bigger than you, how DCs are higher...

Such as? The only thing the 3.x Fighter has going for him is physical damage, which is the worst way to go about winning an encounter, and lots of hit points which do nothing when you inevitably fail a saving throw against a Save-or-Die effect. Anything feats can give him are typically not...

The problem is, there's nothing the Fighter can do that another class can't. if there's anything you want your character to do, Fighter should be the last thing you're looking at. Again, this is all assuming 3.x, since that's my only experience with the boring as dirt "Feats: The Class" Fighter.

Generic to the point that it's only selling point is "It has more feats, which are things literally everyone else gets." Oh, and more attacks, which is also boring.

The problem has never been that the Fighter's "different". The Fighter's problem's been is that it's completely generic to the point where it has no identity of it's own and, as you helpfully demonstrated, any unique feature it does get is taken away to be handed out to everyone else. "More...