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The saints described in Dragon #79 (including St. Kargoth) were more or less equal to the quasideities, according to that article. Hero-deity is one step higher, roughly equivalent to Divine Rank 1 today - Kelanen Prince of Swords was the original example, but Zinzerena (listed as a hero/demigod...

Unlikely. Barghests (or barguests) are creatures from English folklore, and therefore didn't need to have their names changed. And dreggals - spiky-headed, metallic-voiced creatures - don't resemble them. They do somewhat resemble the linquas, but they were a Planescape creation. Gary Gygax...

Actually, this started with Fritz Lieber's stories of Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser, and became part of the Nehwon setting that TSR made some supplements for and included in both Deities & Demigods and Legends & Lore. Forgotten Realms and Planescape got the idea from there. Not so! Remember that...

I had her adopt them when they were driven from their home layer by the gnomish god Urdlen. And then birth Graz'zt with one of their chieftains. But I decided I don't like the abat-dolor. Yesterday, in fact.

It was kind of like Limbo, as I remember, but much more potent in its response to the imagination. It was fine, but probably would unbalance a D&D game. I really, really liked the Child Emperor version of Tharizdun. I'm fine with ubergods as long as they know their place - in the background...

Lemme think: 1. All the daemons, hags, other NE and LE fiends, and devils wanted to serve Tharizdun and his servant Nerull (also called Infestix), seeing this route as the best way for them to maintain their power in Tharizdun's new cosmic order. The demons were fractious and mostly...

What a great book! It presents intriguing mechanics for the demiplane, showing what makes it unique and compelling as a seperate plane of existence rather than just a collection of fantasy nations with extra draculas, wolfmen, and mummies. It makes me like Ravenloft a lot more.

I feel better too, after James Jacobs' and Erik Mona's clarifying posts.

I'd convert it to the HOL system that White Wolf released a while back. The two seem to go together really well.

Pale Night is fascinating for any number of reasons other than her progeny, in any case. Honestly, a semi-spectral matron figure, ancient beyond worlds and words, ruling from a tower of bones, consort to a hundred lords, mother to a thousand young... where is the poetry in your soul that this...

Factol's Manifesto mentioned that Ortho has a thriving population of beholders, but we don't know that the original Knights of Harmony had a beholder in them. They were a regular-type adventuring party. They could have had a beholder, but mostly they were into cleaning out dungeons and slaying...

See http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/2894/ps/ortho.html and http://www.geocities.com/ripvanwormer/harmonium.html for my ideas on Ortho and the founding of the Harmonium.

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The Outer Planes are made out of archetypes, philosophies, myths, and legends. Stronger legends are often repeated across the Great Ring many times as they're filtered through different perspectives. Camelot is one of those. All of the following realms are nigh-infinite, becoming featureless...

This version of Ivid the Undying is much more attractive and useful.

This is Rip, in my goofy ENWorld name. Yeah, that list comes from all over the place. I stole quite a bit from Grodog's site, actually, though a lot of it got mangled in the translation as I spliced it with other sources. Hope he doesn't mind. Astaroth was listed as a demon in the original...

Note that Druaga is the same as Ahriman (this is arguable, since they're described completely differently, but they're the same historically). Kwannon is the same as Kuan Yin. Fire is the same as Hastsezini.