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    D&D Heroclix Iconics

    Oh that action figure wants me to use displacer beasts again - brings the creature to life! :love:
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'm not @Hussar But generally speaking for my table, if a PC were to engage in an immoral activity within the game - it would have in-game consequences. It doesn't make its way into the real world and there is not concern for it occuring in the real world. The two most recent immoral acts...
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    D&D General The Great Railroad Thread

    I understand this thinking (and @pemerton made this point in one of the other threads and I do not feel he was wrong given his playstyle) but if we use the label in this way for all these games/adventures do we require further terminology, do you think, for more restrictive railroads either by...
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    D&D General The Great Railroad Thread

    So, I'm not sure how familiar you are with the AP but essentially each giant lord had a conch which the PCs needed only one of to proceed. They visited the obese hill giant chieftain who was trying to climb the giant hierarchy by consuming as much food as she could believing if she could...
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    D&D General The Great Railroad Thread

    Our current experience reflects the campaign to be sandbox, but the Adventure Paths that are merged within the campaign, which has other player-driven story tangents as well, follow a predominant linear design, but not entirely as it depends on the AP. Are there incidents of railroad, for sure...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    5e is a very different beast to 1e 15th level rogue 8d6 sneak attack 15th level paladin 5d8 smite 15th level cleric sacred flame cantrip 3d8 If you're of the Knowledge or Light domains this become 3d8 + Wis Mod (Potent Spellcasting) If you're of the Life, Nature, Tempest, Trickery or War...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Oh I was not implying anything of the sort. My comment was merely to engage how much empathy does @clearstream expect players to have for 2 door wardens who are there to fulfil a cinematic moment - whether they had 1 hit point or 50 hit points, the empathy should not be dependent on the number...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Ah I missed that, I was referring to your example with Cronut the Barbarian (posts #22009 and #22010)
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Fair enough. For me, an ogre is an ogre is an ogre - some have skill sets that are different and they have been labelled differently for identification reasons as they have different purposes within the game. Same way in RL we have a plumber, a hair stylist and a librarian - these are the same...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I have to wonder how that scenario would play out in 5e using the rules (no homebrew either on the side of the PCs or the monsters).
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'm of the opinion minions can be used for both. In @Umbran's example they serve primarily if not solely as narrative set pieces. In my next session's battle they'll be part of a mass combat encounter, and identified as minions, with less focus on their narrative role, but rather serve as...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    A PC cannot 1-shot an Ogre easily. The minion with the DT can be 1-shotted. The point being that the attack needs to do a minimum amount of damage so there has to be some effort required by the PC. And it comes down to taste - so if I remove the DR completely you can imagine a wizard extending...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Thank you will check it out. Then this part of our conversation is over - but do remember you responded to me. I have been pretty transparent in this thread in how I would mechanically handle minions in 5e. My appreciation of the 4e minion concept or anything else from any edition doesn't mean...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Do not agree and you have left a lot of straw lying around to be picked up. Show me how mathematically? How do you know what Damage Threshold a minion ogre in MY 5e game would be? Because that is what you are responding to, right? My words were ...but not for how I see them being implemented...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    You asked me about the designers intention which I have no idea on. Whether I have used them or not I still could only guess on the designers intention. For the record I have used minions in the past and I intend to in the future to stream line higher level play. I do not buy into the...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Agreed. My old MMs are as valuable as the current MM. I wasn't making that argument LOL!!!. My table's 5e dragons are feared, not only by farmers with crossbows but by high level adventurers.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    White Dragon ANCIENT 18AC no dexterity bonus Red Dragon ADULT 19AC no dexterity bonus Roper 20AC dexterity penalty (AC is actually 21 then)
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Good grief if Daenerys had the type of dragons as statted by 5e she wouldn't have been able to take over Mole's Town nevermind Kings Landing.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Behir - created as weapons vs dragons, lightning breath, decent natural armour Umber Hulk - carapace excellent natural armour Bulette - excellent natural armour ...Etc We will have to agree to disagree as I feel I'd have to change all the above monsters for logical parity. Some of them don't...
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