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    D&D 5E (2014) How close will the final product be to the last playtest?

    I don't have any idea how these things usually work out. But from experience, just because you have access to a playtest doesn't mean the final product will be the same or that it won't sell. I have the alpha and beta pdfs for Pathfinder, and I still got the Core rulebook when it came out. If...
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    D&D 5E (2014) "Damage on a miss" poll.

    I'm not trying to be a jerk, even if that is what is unintentionally being perceived. As far as removing context goes - I cut your comments down for a few reasons. The first is to not turn these replies into monstrously long ones (as you yourself have noted and objected to). The second is to...
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    D&D 5E (2014) "Damage on a miss" poll.

    Ah, you are right, not dismissive at all. Including me. So? But you dismiss that explosions which fill the 5x5x5 square are not the same as a sword swing which at best does a 5ftx5ftx1inch space. And yet when I, and others, give those reasons why we don't object to one but object to another...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Q&A 10/17/13 - Crits, Damage on Miss, Wildshape

    Then we agree it seems. For what it is worth, I tried to say this many pages ago. That if they want to model what they say this does model they can do that - but they need to change how HP and AC work. They need to make armor DR or something similar to it. And so on, and so on and on and on...
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    D&D 5E (2014) "Damage on a miss" poll.

    You rather failed to prove that he was wrong. You can say he is, but that is no more convincing than when you say others are being dismissive. I don't see anywhere in that little sentence where I mentioned the range of the splash weapon. And yes both are non-magical forms of attack. My...
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    D&D 5E (2014) "Damage on a miss" poll.

    What JRRNeiklot says. Plus it isn't a melee weapon. I seem to recall saying that this ability would be best defined as a grenade effect - but since claymores are generally not explosives they shouldn't get the effect.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Q&A 10/17/13 - Crits, Damage on Miss, Wildshape

    Fair enough. I have little to no knowledge outside of 3e. But from what I have been able to gather the term 'cure critical wounds' seems to be ALMOST exclusive to 3e. I did a quick check of both the 4e and 5e pdfs and found no references to those spells. As such, the only information I can give...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Q&A 10/17/13 - Crits, Damage on Miss, Wildshape

    And I promptly ignored it. For a reason. I don't like narrating for everyone what a specific hit looks like. But the rules seem to already tell me that a hit that does 1 pt out of 100 is a relatively minor scratch. One that does 15 of 50 is a much larger hit. But I have no explanation of what...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Wandering Monsters 6/11/13: Riddle of the Sphinx

    I think the key thing that the write-up missed was how sphinxes are guards of things people are meant to get access to. So, instead of maybe making the object impossible to access if the riddle is failed, why not do it the opposite way - open up the way or make it easier. Also, I don't see how...
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    D&D 5E (2014) I just don't buy the reasoning behind "damage on a miss".

    THAT is what you took away form his post? :P But I agree with Jester's crazy example. It is an absurd example of what is perfectly reasonable reading of the ability. A specific "auto" in this case is far more damaging in circumstances people never envisioned when they wrote it up. If it is...
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    D&D 5E (2014) L&L November 4th Warlock Design

    Bold from me. You noticed that too huh? Now it could be that it is an already understood part, or it could be relegated to obscurity. Kind of like what your background in 3e's sorcerer was - "I got my powers from my great great great great grandfather who was a dragon" but it could have easily...
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    Ryan Dancey: This is why there was no M:tG setting for D&D

    I don't really see that as true either. As a brand, if it were true they would have no reason to create either d20 modern or star wars d20 (at least SAGA). Don't those dilute the brand too? As long as the MtG setting is consist with what monsters it needs as the regular DnD settings I don't see...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Q&A 10/17/13 - Crits, Damage on Miss, Wildshape

    What makes you think the psionic attack is headache? Why wouldn't the psionic attack cause HP damage? If it hurts as much as taking, let's say a brick to the head, why wouldn't it cause (roughtly) as much damage as taking a brick to the head. As far as "why isn't running up and down stairs"? I...
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    Ryan Dancey: This is why there was no M:tG setting for D&D

    I just want to say I agree with the prevailing opinion here. Yeah, that one is total BS. Although it speaks to the ability of Dancey's colleagues instead of the property itself. Maybe THEY can't figure out how to make a game where the players aren't against each other out of the universe that...
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    D&D 5E (2014) I just don't buy the reasoning behind "damage on a miss".

    Replying out of order as one does not relate to the other. Right. And in 3e, if wizards still got 5d6 at level 10 (even if the DC went up) then the rogue would likely not need improved evasion. All I'm saying is that in THAT case there was a problem for improved evasion to be the solution. In...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Q&A 10/17/13 - Crits, Damage on Miss, Wildshape

    Why is lightning damage not fire damage or sonic damage? Some things are different. Fatigue is already factored in other ways. Also, this has already been addressed by Celebrim (running up and down stairs). Beyond that, the way it is defined by the wording of the ability does not say it tissue...
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    D&D 5E (2014) I just don't buy the reasoning behind "damage on a miss".

    I don't get this particular thorn in your side. I just don't. I get that you dislike how it "rewards failure" but it is put in as a stopgap method for how damage scales. I had this conversation recently with someone I know in real life and the best reason we could figure after discussion was...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Q&A 10/17/13 - Crits, Damage on Miss, Wildshape

    All would be tissue damage the way I, Celebrim and apparently Gygax's definition of tissue damages/HP/physical damage works. As Celebrim already said, part of the damage, some part any part, IS physical. It is happening. The sword/arrow scratches you. Because you have more HP than the hit...
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    D&D 5E (2014) I just don't buy the reasoning behind "damage on a miss".

    Actually, I agree and disagree. This thread seemed to have had a different take, which is good. But it is retreading much of the same ground, which is bad. So I'm torn but mostly agree KS. I think a new poll may not have been a bad idea actually. I never saw (or at least never voted on) the...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Q&A 10/17/13 - Crits, Damage on Miss, Wildshape

    Let me amend: "Except there is no reason why, in established mechanics, the fighter would have these difficulties. And yet it would make more sense...." What I've been showing for the past 14 pages (in my settings it is 14 now, for others it is 28 or something, right?) is that it isn't just a...
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