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I love the use of terrain in 4e. This is something we did a lot of on our own but it is nice to see it in maps and such.

That is kind of cool, I learn something new everyday. Does that work for a d20 :20:? Boo, that would have been cool though. Anyway, carry on. I was just testing.

In person I am, so I have been told ;), just a wee bit sarcastic too. Sadly, I agree, I have to tame myself on the boards so I don't come off wrong. Also sadly, this gives others the misunderstanding that I am either mocking them or that I am somehow making a personal attack. Sometimes I feel...

Are you referring to the chart on page 42 of the 4e DMG? Just so I know what you are referring to. If so, it is helpful, but I have seen some people already make a mistake and begin to use that as a bible for creating when you can't use that alone. The for PC roles of controller, defender...

See, a good example of why it is hard to know the intent of a post if you can't hear the voice behind it. I think that if everyone in this thread sat down and had a cup of coffee, not one person would think the other is attacking them. It is just the lack of a voice to give it feeling and...

I like it when people agree with me, even if kind of:D I think they should have still included the classes they did, but they should have also included a break down of target numbers to reach for each power at each level and things like that. I interviewed WOTC personal for an interview in our...

Ah, I see what you are saying. ENWorld is as obvious as say Circvs Maximvs for example. You do need to be a bit more mindful and while most people will truely know if you are being a pain, some people seem a but more sensative than others. For the record, I don't think anyone in this thread...

I'm not sure if you are calling me rude, Wonka rude both of us or neither. Anyway, if me, I am not trying to be, I look at my posts as just comments. I'm not sure i agree with you Wonka. The OP didn't come on and say, "to hell with all other editions, 4e rules and you are wrong," he simply...

I both love and hate the 4e classes. I like most of the new features that the clases have but the thing I really hate is how long it takes to make a new class, and I am referring to a new class from the ground up, not just switching a power or two. You feel almost obligated to come up with 50...

NOTE:The above post is not meant to be sarcastic or in anyway back talking a mod. Just to make sure we are all clear on that.

I don't really think I am attacking him. I think I am being civil, at least that is how I am trying to come off. Then again, I don't always come off as intended in posts.:eek: To me, the thread started off as one thing and that comment just made me feel like it was trying to switch gears. Of...

I could be, but then why even bring up a post poll in this thread ans then compare it to another?

Fighters had variety based on feats and style of play. I played in a game that restricted use to core rules with a fighter and because of the way I played him I had a blast. Add in things like the duelist and even more so. Sure, they didn't have hundreds of spells to choose from so yes, they...

I myself didn't go to that thread with the poll when it first came out just because I don't like the edition battle threads. I went to this one, read the OPs point of view, saw a few civil folks reply in what appeared an honest debate on pros and cons and I wanted to get in on the conversation...

I'm not saying I like one more than the other, well, I will say now because we are talking about it that I like 3.5 better but like a lot of features of 4 and that I play and DM both, so fit that in your poll. I think, more so now than before when 4e was first announced, the two edition...

I can see that too. My point is that polls really don't gauge anything. If you ask a room full of democrate what they think of the republican party, you are going to get different results than if you asked a room full of republicans how they felt about their own party. I find the polls on...

Then I'm not sure what you are complaining about, the whole 4e core set is, in spite of making some classes better, very generic. Hell, the feat selection really blows. Too many supplements spoils the game, but a nice balance is fine. By dismissing everything but the core rules you have...

Polls are not really a fair assessment of anything. I checked out your post to see what it was all about and here you link it to an edition war thread. IMO, you should have let your arguments stand on their own. Now it just feels like a trap instead of a place to discuss likes and dislikes...

I find the results very interesting. Here it appears that 4e is more popular. When I was manning the Dragon Roots Magazine booth I got a lot of feed back from people telling me that they either were stuck in AD&D or wanted more 3.5 content. Very few actually said they made the move to 4e...

The PHBII, or was it DMGII, in 3.5 did have rules for re-training as an optional rule. The problem was that it wasn't an established rule, just an alternate rule, so most DMs dismissed it. Now that 4e made it apart of the regular rules, everyone loves it. Go figure. I don't think this is...