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  1. DM-Rocco

    Is there a non-magic paladin or a paladin with Chr based spells?

    I know what the Glory Domain is, what and where is the instinct domain from? Sometimes I like the alternate class stuff better than feats. There are way too many feats. I will check it out when I get home. Thanks.
  2. DM-Rocco

    Is there a non-magic paladin or a paladin with Chr based spells?

    Double oops. On closer inspection a favored soul gets bonus spells based on Chr and uses Chr to determine spells cast, but Wis for saves. That stinks. What a jip. I'll work around it. On the plus side I can now take a cleric and not feel that I am missing out on anything :) What exactly is...
  3. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    Well, thanks for being civil :) I do tend to warn my players about such things well in advance and if they can't take a hint, for lack of a better word, thier loss. I don't place Bodaks in chests and I do researve SoD effects for special cases. Even when the party has protection I have the...
  4. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    I agree with this. I think the main problem, which seems to be addressed by the WOTC 4th edition team, is the power curve, the CR system and other items you talk about and not so much the SoD effects. I seriously fail to see why people are so worked up about the SoD effect in the game. The...
  5. DM-Rocco

    Is there a non-magic paladin or a paladin with Chr based spells?

    I saw that too. I like the idea of playing a paladin, but in order to play a Prestige paladin you can't take paladin levels, so what do I do with myself for those first 5 levels? I could redo the stats to something like this: Str 14 (6 points) Con 14 (6 points) Dex 12 (4 points) Int 10 (2...
  6. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    No, not really. The Dm is a jackass for ambushing the party and trying to kill them in the way described. There is a problem with the system, but that is not the focus of this thread. Again with the what if game, okay, what if the Bodak was under orders from the big bad undead boss to try and...
  7. DM-Rocco

    Is there a non-magic paladin or a paladin with Chr based spells?

    It is not that I hate the spells, I want the spells, I just don't want the spells based on Wis. I am thinking of starting a new game with a few friends and they are playing gestalt characters with a 30 point buy. I can come up with a really kick ass paladin/favored soul if I don't use Wis, the...
  8. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    Hmm, thanks for the assumtion that I am compensating for the lack of something, but my wife would disagree :) ;) :cool: I, personally, don't throw Bodaks infront of players in a random encounter, even if Gary Gygax has made a wandering table that says, here he is. I know of a few DMs that...
  9. DM-Rocco

    Is there a non-magic paladin or a paladin with Chr based spells?

    Basically looking for the goodies like smite, Aura of courage, divine grace, divine health and turn undead but I don't want the spells that are Wis based.
  10. DM-Rocco

    Is there a non-magic paladin or a paladin with Chr based spells?

    I am looking for a varient paladin that either doesn't have spells or uses Chr for spell use rather than Wis. I know that the Complete warrior (I think it was warrior) has a varient on the paladin that doesn't use spells, but I don't really like that one. Also, a PrC that is disigned for...
  11. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    Okay, just because I am in favor of keeping SoD effects doesn't mean that I think every encounter should have SoD effects. I use them sparingly in my game and to dramatic effect. Just because a player has Death Ward on doesn't mean that an evil cleric can't dispell it and then use a SoD...
  12. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    That is partly my point when talking about a party that works well together and plays the game and doesn't let the game play them. With out the SoD, the Bodak would be a CR 2 creature at best, IMHO.
  13. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    Okay, then can we dispense with the ridiculous arument that we need to do away with SoD effects? This is most likely the tip of the ice berg of a newer and more "player friendly" D&D so while removing SoD effects doesn't mean that players can't die, I think it is heading in a direction where it...
  14. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    Yes, if you have a boss as a bodak and you have scrolls of death ward, you should use them. Hmm, I don't see your arguement. Not really. The game has flaws in that is assumes that you will cast such protections and gain the use of scrolls and such. If the players don't have a balanced party...
  15. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    What a flash back that is. I loved that show as a kid, although, it has been so long I have a fading memory of exact events. It was no Conan the Barbarian (which I memorized every line). If I recall correctly in the begining there was a pool of blood or an alter of blood. Anyway, a lot of...
  16. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    Well, if you say they are out of level for it right now then you are don't allowing the arguement to follow a natural progression but that is another story. The PCs, if exploring a tomb, should get a feeling by all the other undead that something big is coming up and as a precaution should cast...
  17. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    First, you can say what you want, but if you won a million bucks from a candy wrapper you would be very thrilled :D :p :lol: Draining of CON IMO is a worse thing that SoD effects and kills almost as quickly. I researve SoD effects because it is never fair to have the PCs make so many...
  18. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    Well yes, I guess you have me there but I didn't want to get into the liches daily buffs so I offered that instead. AMENDMENT The Lich casts greater invisibility, persisted, along with the same versions of fly. He also cast protection against fire, cold, acid, sonic and electric along with the...
  19. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    Now come on Raven, that is just foolish on your part. The rules clearly state you only take X fire damage per round and as long as you make your swimming check and if you have a spell protecting you from fire damage I think you should be able to bath in lava with no ill effect. :D :p :lol:
  20. DM-Rocco

    Is 4th edition getting soft? - edited for friendly content :)

    Well, Jozan knows that the Bodak is around the corner and casts Death Ward on the party. The Bodak ability is a Supernatural Death Ability and should protect the party from the attack. Is there another arguement you had in mind? Death Ward Necromancy Level: Clr 4, Death 4, Drd 5, Pal 4...
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