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Your math is off. It wouldn't take 20 townsfolk to kill a single ogre before all being killed. They'd take it out in 1 round on average, and if they won initiative they'd lose no one. 10 townsfolk would probably kill the ogre before being killed, with a 50% chance on average of doing it in 1...

Of course he was 1st level. He didn't get captured from his village as the Mighty Conan. He was taken as a no character class kid and then trained in the slave pits. That training involved him going to levels 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. until we see him as the mighty slave fighter who went on to all...

It happened in the 1e MM with liches being magic users or clerics. Couatls are magic users, clerics or both. Vampires in the 1e MM retained their classes. Locathah had fighter members. Ixitxachitls had clerics. And there were more. And also, in the DMG when talking about monsters as PCs...

Right. The OP is questioning the auto hit because the caster missed the athletics check to stay on the dragon as well as the dex check to catch himself. In an uncontrolled fall off of a dragon, an attack roll is not only reasonable, but really it's generous.

You do realize that "doesn't state" =/= "can do." You cannot do anything the rules don't state unless the DM okays it via a ruling. The don't state that you can automatically touch someone you target with a spell, so you can't unless the DM says you can. It cannot be cast on the enemy. It...

You're kidding, right? You're arguing that touch is a ranged attack? Good God almighty. You said, "When I cast a spell, either I can automatically touch someone who does not want to be touched or I can't automatically touch someone who does not want to be touched." That is clearly untrue...

Talk to the designers about that one. But from a sheer balance perspective, there should pretty much never be an auto success for a hit AND no save in the same spell. That's broken on its face. Magic Missile is a sacred cow and should have a to hit roll or save involved. That it doesn't is...

It's not at all the same as auto touch, auto full effect with no save. Apples do not equal oranges. No. The argument is that you should have to roll an attack to touch someone if THERE IS NO SAVE.

There kinda are. There are guidelines, conventions and best practices that are typically followed for scriptwriting, playwrighting, etc. They aren't hard, fast rules, but then neither are game mechanics.

Thanks. Then it's not an example of what is being discussed.

I don't think you really understood what I am saying. It wasn't the specifics of the setting that I was talking about. Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms both have details about them that enrich the experience. A specific player may not care about FR vs. Greyhawk, but both will appreciate the...

That's a change then from the still equally legitimate 5e rules. And one that I dislike. A spell that has no save should not automatically hit.

It's not the same category of spell, though. There are more than two types. Cloud of daggers is not the same as a spell that has a target that is automatically hit.

Magic Missile is a sacred cow. Cloud of Daggers isn't a ranged attack at all. It's an area effect like Blade Barrier. Same with Reverse Gravity. Heat Metal doesn't attack a creature. It heats an object. Of those examples, only Magic Missile is a ranged attack and the auto miss is only there as...

In 5e typically spells that auto hit also have a save. Spells that have no save typically require a hit roll. The no save version of dispel evil falls outside of that, which in and of itself doesn't really mean much. D&D is an exceptions based game and there are exceptions to just about...

I would have considered it to be offensive. The dragon was under control of something that did not want that control broken. That's a hostile act against it.

Why? They were touch in 3e and nobody had to roll when touching an ally. RAW is not clear at all. Show me where when you are falling uncontrolled off the back of a dragon you have an automatic touch hit against it? This was a rulings over rules situation where the DM would have been justified...

Right, but what those things are apparently doesn't include greed and murder, because Gollum lasted far longer than one should if they were included, and the Sackville Bagginses were greedy and fairly mean. Either that, or they have some more innate resistance based on racial outlooks that...