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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    It's neither a ranged weapon nor a melee weapon. It is an improvised weapon. You make a ranged attack or a melee attack with it, depending on the situation.
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    read the words carefully and don't make up your own words to fill in. You make a ranged attack with a melee weapon. That's it. Stop there. Now, if you want to know what bonus to add to you ranged weapon attack, you read the section that describes that. But if you are using your melee weapon, the...
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    Your two sentences that start with 'you can'. What words in the phb are those assertions based on?
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    Quote to me the rule that says those two things. Or four things, depending how you are counting
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    THE GRINDING GEARS OF HEAVEN: The Penultimate ZEITGEIST Adventure & A Chat With Designer Ryan Nock

    Don't convert, as such. Just decide what you want to throw at your party. Is it a trap that you want to be deadly, or just take a couple of hp to sap some resources to keep them feeling under pressure. Do you want them to find the secret door or not? For instance, would they walk away from some...
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    Oh, I'm sorry, that was someone else with the table. But anyway, as soon as you say the rule makes an implication, then you are misunderstanding what rules are. The words of the rules are what's true. If the words don't say it, then it's not true. All the words, read together, including the...
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    Your table makes that line from phb 146 not true. Every weapon is classified as either a melee weapon or a ranged weapon. The wording is not 'every weapon is classified as a melee weapon or a ranged weapon depending on whether you use it to make a melee attacks or a ranged attack.' Sage advice...
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    I think some people take 'clarify' to mean change. This may be because they believe their incorrect reading of the rules was equally valid. But a clarification is only an explanation of what those words mean in other words. So then people rules lawyer on the new words as if they are the rules...
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    You don't mention that you are only talking about modifiers to the roll when you are using words from the section about that, whert Jeremy is very clear about that. Taking wording from a section that talks about the roll and using it to define ranged attacks or melee attacks is backwards. Also...
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    The heading for the thing defines where you find out about the thing. There's nothing more to it than that. So making your own definition of a thing and and making arguments about rules for a thing based on words that don't appear in the part of the book that describes the thing is false. Ranged...
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    The headings. I won't re-word them because they are very clear. What do the words in the heading say?
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    Right. Under the headings Attack Rolls, Modifiers to the Roll. Not under the headings Ranged Attacks or Melee Attacks. All the words together in order matter when reading instructions. Although i actually don't think we are in disagreement about what the rules mean in gameplay. I apply str...
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    phb 146 every weapon is classified as a melee weapon or a ranged weapon. phb 147 if a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack. If the weapon is a melee weapon, you use the same ability modifier for that attack roll and damage roll that you would use to...
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    Aside from improvised, your table just isn't how it works because you can make a ranged attack with a melee weapon. There's the weapon type, and there's the kind of attack you make with it. You can make a ranged attack with a melee weapon if you throw it. It doesn't become a ranged weapon when...
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    If you use a ranged weapon for a melee attack, then it's an improvised weapon because there is no rules saying you can use it for that. Otoh, there is a rule addressing using a melee weapon to use a ranged attack.
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    This sage advice clarifies that if you make a melee weapon attack, then you use str. If you make a ranged attack with a melee weapon, then you are making a ranged attack with a melee weapon. You aren't making a ranged weapon attack with your melee weapon. So, even though it is a ranged attack...
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    Sage Advice: Sneak Attacks, Breath Weapons, and Magic Weapons

    Oh yeah. Finess can use your dex instead. Player basic rules off.
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