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So the problem was with power attack and not frenzied berserker, leap attack, or shock trooper? No, everything always has to be considered as part of a whole. Not alone. This is even more true in 4e where tactics are much more important and easier to realize. You have to figure that nearly...

Wait, so the problem is "these spells would be broken but they aren't because you cant combine them with things that make many wizard spells really strong?"

How about this. You tell me in what situation a wizard having Astral Storm and the Cleric having Meteor swarm would be balanced given what the Wizard could do with Astral Storm. Tell me in what situation firestorm would be reasonable if you could bolster it and use other control to keep enemies...

1. No, you can't. If you maintain "power balance" you will screw everything else. 2. No, they can only get class abilities from any class if those class abilities are transferred from the original when multiclassing. E.G. you can multiclass to rogue or ranger and get sneak attack/hunters quarry...

Not really, no. Unless the combat goes significantly longer than it ought to be. And by then you are losing.

Does "excelling at AoE" damage mean you do a lot of it, or you can do it consistently? Because as we have already mentioned, lots of AoE damage is not all that valuable so long as you do 1 damage.

What damage from enemy fire? We are going to be stunning them every other round, what are they going to do, drool on the wizard? That is not the way the power works. It triggers each time the effect does damage What? While not quite "a man is his what he wears" from 3e, limiting items to basic...

They do more than that, they are criting since the wizard is laying down stunning encounter powers.

Sleep is a level 1 daily. Fire Storm is a level 19 daily... A sleep that hits will still do more damage than firestorm will. It does top level striker damage never. Strikers will be using special abilities to increase their damage. It does guaranteed damage each round, yes. But its still less...

No, you cannot. If you do this you will get results which tell you nothing about the game. If you want results which tell you nothing about the game then go right ahead and compare the powers. If you want results which you can use to either determine if the game is balanced, or if you want...

If the powers from from different classes then you do. If i am comparing the striking ability of a Wizard with Warlock you have to compare the curse on top of it. Comparing powers accross classes and then ignoring what those classes can do with those powers by combining them with other...

Because when you look at Warlock and Ranger powers you have to add 3d6 damage/round on top of what is listed. Not nearly, they also aren't nearly as good at causing damage. Damage in 4e is technically control. But only because minions exist. And when dealing with minions the amount of damage...

If A -> B B -> C Then C =/= A may or may not be true Try again.

Now you're just flat out lying. There are not a significant number of cleric attacks that have control, they almost all fall on the same level or are encounter level strength for wizards (while taking up a Cleric Daily) and half of them are melee attacks forcing your cleric to dump the charisma...

You're doing it again. You ignore that Shield of Faith is a daily and Shield is an encounter. You ignore that Sanctuary forces the target to not attack anyone or the effect ends and both are standard actions instead of interrupts. And i was wrong, the cleric shield equivalent is level 10...

The question is not "is Thunderous Word a better pushing power than Thunderwave?" The question is "Is Thunderous Word a better controlling power than Thunderwave and Ice Tomb or Force Volley" Asking whether or not a lv 17 push is going to be stronger or weaker than an at will is a bit like...

I don't think you can, I don't think you can find a level 6 cleric spell superior to shield. Oh wait, what is that, its the cleric shield spell at level 6 and the wizard has it at level 2! Well, the wizard one only works on itself and is a shield bonus instead of a power bonus, but still, that...

So if you start at 11 you can pick them up via retraining in the epic tier. At least you aren't a wizard, the two best and nearly essential feats have rough prereqs. Spell Focus... 13 cha Arcane Reach ... 15 dex

Except that those wont spare a moving friendly.

It is however, dependent on using wizard powers to gain the most benefit.