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  1. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    Ok, now I have simulated the number of HS remaining at various level after having faced 3 Single Encounters versus monsters of the same level of the party (doing the increase damage introduced in previous post), see blue line below. I also added the simulation of the various monster challenges...
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  4. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    I started playing with the damage output of monster in order to try to get to a similar Adventuring Day curve I had in 6th Level, to be reflected in 16th adn 26th Level as well. It was doable under existing healing, and the result look like this: So, what did I have to do? Well 4th...
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  9. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    I think this could be a quite interesting option, especially when you start reaching Paragon and Epic level play. At that level, even bringing in a lower level threat will take time to defeat just due to the fact that it still has a lot of Hit Points. Providing monsters at those levels, which...
  10. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    So lets start with analyzing what the healing consist of. I have broken it up into healing from the character's Healing Surge values (please note that I am using 1/6 rather than 1/4 of max HP to calculate HS value in this example). Then I look at the extra healing provided just by the Healing...
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  12. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    Well you can either choose to accept that the game has a flaw and like permeton try to compensate this flaw by using tougher monsters, or you can try to analyze the game and find what causes the problem and suggest improvements or changes. I am the later kind of person. I want to be able to...
  13. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    So roughly 16-18 surges for a 5 player party then. Ok, that is a little lower than the 22 surges maximum I counted for my optimized Cleric, but in most battles it is more likely that only 18 surges would be used (as dailys don't always come into play). It looks at least that we are playing in...
  14. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    Houston we got a problem! I hope I have done something wrong in my calculations, but right now the whole healing thing looks very broken. Will have to go through the numbers again, but right now it looks like you can't have a flat M+0 monster challenge over all party levels. It works at 6th...
  15. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    Yes that is an interesting drawback. As WotC actually increased monster damage output between MM2 and MM3 if I remember correctly, maybe a better choice would have had been to reduce the healing capability or the number of healing surges or the healing surge value, and they could have achieve...
  16. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    Would be interesting if you could calculate the average healing capability of your party during one encounter, just for a high level reference. What level are they? For calculation, use a 65% average hit chance if the healing is tied to a chance to hit. I have used a 5 member party as basis. For...
  17. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    Well, I have at every selection of Encounter or Daily Power selected the power with the highest healing capability (maximum number of healing surges for the most people). I think this is not always the best choice for a cleric, you might want to maximize other aspects and be more content with...
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  19. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    So what happens if we then add this exponential healing capability to the analysis - well we start to see magic happening!!! It seems like the WotC design team was actually using the healing mechanism to balance the monsters. If we look at M+0 monsters we now can see that roughly 2 monsters are...
  20. Myrhdraak

    D&D 4E Changing the Combat Parameters of 4th Edition

    HEALING I have now gone through the Cleric class and tried to almost "maximizing" its healing capability. The result was somewhat of a surprise to me (but maybe not for those that have played Epic characters). The party's ability to heal is very exponential as can be seen in the graph below...
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