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    D&D 5E (2024) 5e GMs: Do/Have/Would You Start Above 1st Level? (Note: Cannot change your vote.)

    5.5 characters start way smoother due to the background feat.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    Which would you not play at all?
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    I think the rogue won't fall off before level 11. Evasion, reliable talent and sneak attack going up and an extra feat, while som other classes more or less stagnate until level 11. Warlock really depends on rather frequent short rest to be offensively powrful. Their defenses and utility is...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    The new champion rocks. Weapon masteries, free movement on crits, advantage on initiative, extra second winds, second wind to enhance skills. And farmer background for extra HP. Human for heroic inspiration 1/day and lucky feat does not hurt either. Are they as good as optimized...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    Maybe. The rogue however is still a very reliable source of good damage. Does not miss a lot. Brings damage exactly where it is needed. Is very sturdy with his uncanny dodge. Can very reliably scout ahead. And never runs out of steam. We don't have such a specific item. This item of course...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    Correct Stopping regeneration was a nice bonus. Damage numbers would be the same vs other foes. Correct. We had alert feat and advantage on initiative. 500hp (one troll had 22 con and over 100hp, his limp had 16 extra hp) And regeneration. Please tell me where your damage comes from...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    Just today used fireballs against 5 trolls. Was very efficient. 5 characters (lvl5): Fiend warlock Champion fighter Trickery cleric Scout rogue Glamour bard 2 sidekicks: Warrior(defender) expert Spells used: 2 fireballs 1 bless (2nd level), lasted till the end of the encounter. 1 failed...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    Correct. But even if you roll slightly under average, only 2 make their save on average. So that averages out to 1 minion not dead on average with only a few points of HP left. Most sane minions flee at that point.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    If you have that available, good call. If not. Fireball. Use concentration. Which might be better used for different things. Of course, if you allow dragging the cleric around for multiple instances per turn, nothing can compete. I would not allow more than one drag per round. Otherwise it...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    No you do not. Does not matter which 3rd level spell you use. Ok. Maybe you do not last that long. But those kind of days seldom happen. And they are not RAW anymore. Does work. I'd really like to see your encounters... I have no problem dealing with my players (at least up to level 8 where...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    Yes. Good tactics. Totally ok. Never said that it is bad. If you can crowd control everyone, fine. But switch all spellcasters to wizards* and just use fireballs. The outcome is the same. *or lore bard, dragon sorcerer, fiend warlock, light cleric.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    They are not anemic. They do what they are supposed to do. I opt out now. If nothing breaks concentration. Different saving throw. Some spells are good. Command is a great level 1 control spell. Single target or multi target. No concentration. Your problem seems to be that you only see black...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    I really disagree. One stealth buff for 2024: many mosters lost proficiency in saves. So many monsters just fail against dex save spells. Especially spellcasters. Also, even a successful save triggers a concentration save for them. Knowing when to use which is important. No. They can do a...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    Or more areay which I would prefer. No free scaling. Actually there is one free scaling spell: polymorph... Terrible design. I tell my players that spell slot used is the cap for CR. Or even half spell level. You can't compare 3e and 5e. In 3e there was no concentration and save or such was...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    I quoted the recommendation. They just say, that you need to be careful, especially at level 1 and 2. Level 10 is not level 1 and 2. CR 2 and 3 enemies are never critters. 40 to 70 hp is never not a lot. Fireball still helps, although fireball is only a level 3 spell when you can cast level 5...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    That is what I asked. I just did not understand your sentence.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    Yes. I think the damage scaling should be horrible for blast spells. This damage scaling will make multiclassing way more (too?) attractive. I do like the radius increase though. It should be able to decimate armies. Not single targets. Combined with the above suggestion would not be...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    I don't understand what you mean with that. One Cr +3/+4 critter and 2 - 3 low level servants? If you do that all the time, of course hold person will be way better than fireball. My encounters usually have a spread of different monsters. Usually within the suggested guidelines: - mixed groups...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    Nah. It says, you should be careful about doing that. But if the players are not careful, why should I want to be? Nah. It means that it is good for what it does. Even if you are only facing 10 creatures against a level 5 party. Let them be CR 2 or so. Fireballs still do their job. Taking away...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball Vs Chromatic Orb Late Tier 2 Thoughts.

    That is one thing I really love about 5e. You do not need high level mooks. You don't have to fill every bandid hideout with level 5 bandids to make an interesting encounter for level 5 characters. Outnumber your players 4 to 1 and give them favorable terrain and some ranged weapons and...
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