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I have played warlocks on numerous occasions, and they are rather similar to fighters. They usually do one thing, and do that alot. Some are archers, some are melee combatants. As others have said, he is basically a warrior, with eldritch energy as his weapon as aposed to a steel greatsword...

airwalkrr that first draft looks pretty good. Not sure if I am gonna go with dramatic HP or the coup de grace varient, but they both look good. Weapons would haev to be verified on a case by case basis. A scimitar to the neck would work, while a warhammer sittign on ones head doesn't quite...

You appear to my eyes to also be a "freeloafer" :lol:

it appears I need a paypal account of some kind, damn the beuracratic laws of adulthood! Maybe someday then.

Are you using woodelf's weapons as special effects?

With WP/VP? I thought about that, but I don't want to change all the classes, give them all defense bonus's, work out the DR for weach suit of armor, and all that. And I currently have zero money for RPG books, so I can't buy anything. Thus, I was hoping for a very simple fix, which "dramtic...

I really like that one. Might add it to my campaign jsut for the hell of it, cause its so cool. Definitly going into my "box of goodies" :D -Sravoff

I thank you all for your input, and regret my late responce. but it couldn't be helped. There was no real emphasis on the crossbow, it was just an example. A rapier at your throat is very lethal. So swords, bows, and crossbows would be included. So far I am likeing the "dramatic HP" rule alot...

Is that "surprised HP"? If they taek that much they die? or somethign else, I don't quite follow... Sorry.

Wy is it utterly worthless to hold a crossbow at somebody? The hero had just flung open the door to the closet where the Baron was cowering, only to find to his horror it was empty... "Turn around slowly and make no sudden moves..." Our hero turns slowly to see the baron, light crosbow in...

You sir, absolutly rule. Many props, you are, as its has been said, a god among men. :D

The Chaos Mage seems quite powerful. The ability to swap out spells known every day is a really sweet ability. Iron will and skill focus (spellcraft) are a must for these guys, since those two rolls have major effects in regards to the character. I really like the wild surge ability, but...

Thats a great alternate rage, I really liek that.

Yes it can!! that sounds good, though still the problem of balancing out abilities. I am starting to realize that there isn't going to be a formula that works for all monsters.

I am begginning to see dice pools here :eek: Any way, one way to introduce a 3/4 progression is to give every one, in addition to character level, a combat level. This combat level would increase at the same rate as classes old BAB would have. All 1/2 BAB classes add .5 to their Combat Level...

A friend of mine has the Savage species book, I;ll see if I can borrow it. Perhaps running the spell levels off of HD could work, but once you get to higher levels, HD for monsters sky rocket. With a enough number crunching I think that may be possible though... I was origanally givign them...

Which would definitly be a problem, having a 4th level character running around with a DC 14 stone gaze spell four tiemes a day. Provided atleast a 14 cha and int. yes, I can see that being a problem... What if the DC stayed te same? I mean same as the base creature, so no matter what stats...

Ok, so here is what I have come up with so far. The Blue Mage, another name woudl be fine, but I am not feelign incredibly dreative at the moment, can learn any Super Natural (SU) or Extrardianry (Ex) abilities of any creature. Any ability the Blue Mage wants to learn, takes up a spell level...

Not so much. I don't see how a random amount of skill points is going to be more beneficial than a set number plus int mod. Right, sorry, I should ahev kept my personal taste out of it, my bad. Won;t hapen again :p -Sravoff

I could be, but as I said before, thats just me.