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To demonstrate to the public that justice had been done, and not some sordid private murder. To demonstrate to the public that the law is just, and that they can rely upon the authorities to deliver justice even when appearances are misleading. Thus to enable the community to respect the law and...

Trial in the Curia Regis was. But the manor courts, hundred courts, assizes, and other Royal courts were certainly available to commoners. Indeed, the escheat of property from commoners convicted of felony was an important source of revenue to whomever owned the right of high justice and managed...

As "Simon the Righteous"? It is mentioned in Chambers Biographical Dictionary (ISBN 0550 100512) on page 1071. And it is discussed by the historical novellist Sharon Kay Penman in her novelised biography of de Montfort "Falls the Shadow".

Just so. Asked to arbitrate between the claims of the rivals for the throne of Scotland, he sold his justice to the one who agreed to swear fealty to him. And then claiming a suzerainty that he had obtained by extortion, he invaded and attempted to conquer. Are you aware that in 1265 he robbed...

Indeed. And my very point is that Vindicator's paladin did not carry out his duties in an orderly, organised fashion. Conceding tht he had the authority to hold a trial and execute a sentence, I maintain that he did so in a shoddy, slipshod, disorganised, disorderly fashion. The character has...

In the meanings of the words. Wearing clothes with the arse out of the trousers would be unquestionably unbecoming to a paladin, but not a breach of the Code. OOC: I am posting in character. My character antedates the Uniform Code of Military Justice by at least seven hundred years, and...

According to Edward I it was. According to Simon de Montfort it wasn't. One of them is remembered as 'Simon the Righteous, Father of Parliament' and was revered as a saint. The other is remembered as a cruel, cold, methodical giant, a tyrant, oathbreaker, and warmonger.

It might be. Or it might be termed 'excessive force', if the investigators and the court think there was a way to prevent the rape without killing the rapist. I would guess that shouting "Freeze, malefactor!" would have been enough to prevent the rape, and that the force was excessive, and...

A pre-emptive clarification Duties in a far land call me away for a while. And so begging the indulgence of the court I will anticipate the emergence of a number of issue that I believe will come to be of concern to the court. If Sir Vindicator is charged with willfully committing an evil act...

With respect, that is not the issue before the court, nor is it an issue that lies within our competence to judge. We are judging whether his actions were becoming in a paladin. Please do not attempt to confuse the proceedings.

If the charge were 'evil-doing' or 'gross violation of the Code' I should have voted 'not guilty'. But the charge was 'conduct unbecoming in a paladin', and his conduct was that. As we are men of the Word we must speak to the charge made. This is no corrupt secular court of hidden motives of...

It seems to me that his condemnation is still in doubt, and it is perhaps improper to speak of the sentence before the verdict lest it sway the jurors in their verdict. But since urgency is so pressing, I will speak. The question of a sentence is a difficult question, seeing that what is right...

Conduct unbecoming to a paladin: Guilty My lords, it is with great reluctance that I vote to condemn a fellow man. And yet I know full well that the calling of a paladin ofttimes demands that hard choices be made with great urgency and too little knowledge. If I am in such a case, and act in...

A D&D 3.0 campaign set in a fantasticised Durham, England in AD 1090-1092. Edmund Edwinson was a son of a Saxon (well, Northumbrian) huscarl killed in fighting against the Norman Conquest in 1069. He was raised in Spain, had fought against the Moors, had been captured, enslaved, shown mercy...

Edmund Edwinson, Christian knight, LG

Fair enough. Consider my comments retracted.

Well, I'm certainly not going to vote that paladins are subject to modern notions of jurisprudence. I hold they are marked by Lawful attitudes to delivering anything so important as Justice in an orderly sort of way, which includes meeting at least the locally-prevailing ancient, mediaeval, or...

Oh alright! If you insist on being so bloody reasonable. Agemegos/Agback/Brett Evill

A god can't take away a paladin's paladinhood. So long as the paladin obeys the restrictions of that class it is his or her righteousness, not the whim or favour of his or her god, that provides paladin abilities. Contrariwise, a god is not able to grant paladin powers to a character who does...

Nice scenario. But if Vindicator's GM tries to pull one like that after giving an OOC warning that the villain was a lowly commoner I'd call it really raw.