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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    Actually, not all the figures are from the same text. You have to rabbit around a bit looking for records of prices. I actually have some figures on the difference in prices for livestock between breeding areas (Leicestershire) and London. I think the pattern is interesting (the difference is...
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    An Open Letter to Dragon and Dungeon Readers

    Did you hear the one about the clever cat that ate some cheese and breathed down a mouse-hole with baited breath?
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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    These differences do exist in historical prices. The real price of grain, flour, and bread varied significantly from year to year, and a long-term trend roughly doubled the price of livestock and halved the price of worked metal goods between about 1000 and about 1400. But these variations from...
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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    If you look at post #15 in this thread you will see that I have already posted a list of the prices of typical mediaeval furnishings. They aren't going to do the job. On another point you raise: if you start measuring the cost of a inn in terms of a wealth innkeeper instead of the wages of...
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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    That wouldn't stop players from making clucking noises. In fact not, since I am basing my criticism on the (or rather, as jgbrowning points out, a) mediaeval price ratio of bread and a live chicken. I don't have a retail price for a dead chicken, and indeed I don't think people bought them...
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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    Assuming that running costs, maintenance, and depreciation account for 50% of turnover, leaving the rest for rent? About 10 year's rent is a reasonable purchase price in the sort of capital-starved economy that produces mediaeval-like technology and industrial organisation.
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    What's it like to have royalty?

    I never said they were old money. I said that they inherited it rather than working for it Old Joe was a hard-working bootlegger. But Jack, Bobby, and Ted just inherited.
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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    Agreed. Now, is it your contention that the prices that are giving us trouble in this thread (wages, real estate prices, and the prices of provisions) do a better job in PC interaction than a set of prices would that made some sort of sense when compared to one another? Do you maintain that a...
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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    But some of the prices are unreasonably cheap. Your rock stars are paying triple for bread but getting chicken at an 87.5% discount. And besides, the mediaeval prices I have for meals, beds, light, fire, and meals in inns were paid by wealthy outsiders: gentlemen travelling with servants. I...
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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    Now you are assuming that all the revenue is gross profit. You ought to allow for expenses, such as wages and maintenance. And I still doubt that the revenue you assume makes sense, because the price of accommodation is very high in comparison to wages. You have the advantage in defending a...
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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    You are right, it was not. In the post from which you quoted I had listed a number of representative prices for construction, real estate, provisions and household fittings. I invited a comparison of the ratios among these and their relation to wages with the relative and real prices of such...
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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    You are right, it was not. In the post from which you quoted I had listed a number of representative prices for provisions and household fittings. I invited a comparison of the ratios among these and their relation to wages with the relative and real prices of such items listed in the PHB (or...
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    What's it like to have royalty?

    The English disposed of their monarchy in 1649 and restored it pretty successfully in 1660.
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    Raise Dead and its Social Implications

    Well, it is not uncommon for a bad law to encourage what it is aimed at suppressing, so perhaps this feature of your world is realistic. But note: Under your law, someone who kills the king for the throne actually stands to get it, which encourages him to try. Whereas if the revivified king got...
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    Raise Dead and its Social Implications

    Just so. Either the presumed setting of D&D or certain salient features of the D&D rules has to go: the two are inconsistent with one another. Unfortunately hacking the setting-busting spells out and then restoring game balance is a lot of work. Which is why most GMs who bother to be consistent...
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    Raise Dead and its Social Implications

    Sorry, I'm working from PHB 3.0, so I'm rather out of date.
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    What's it like to have royalty?

    Really? I thought they inherited it, just like European nobles. As for the Civil List, my understanding is that the British Royal Family work pretty hard for that salary, and that anyone who doesn't do the work doesn't get the pay. Australia has a monarchy in theory, but it doesn't live here...
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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    I'll say it is a bit much! Even at 1 gp per day it is the price of three years' labour. And therefore the equivalent of £5 in mediaeval money. You could in fact buy a well-built row-house in York (including the real estate it was built on) for three year's labourer's wages. Or build two and a...
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    Raise Dead and its Social Implications

    Yes, but a Stole of Raise Dead (12/day) "only" requires fifty such gems. If a GM were to want such items in his or her campaign, their recommended price would be 444,400 gp. At an interest rate of say 10% that's 44,440 gp per year to amortise it. Say 250 working days per year: 178 gps per day...
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    How much does an inn cost to buy?

    Look at post #18 in this thread. That is your post, is it not? Look at the quoted text in it. The subject was very definitely an inn costing 272,000 gp. As for the 7gp/week income of craftsmen, I maintain that when taken in juxtaposition with the 1sp/day wage of common labour (PHB p96) it is...
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