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Just ran into it on DTRPG: anyone have any experience with Shadowfinder? Looks tasty ... Is it just a PF bestiary conversion or a full rules hack?

My point is if we can't discuss politics, then we can't engage THIS particular topic fully ....

Based on what data? Do you have a link? Among experienced players, who easily compose the majority of the hobby, there are usually very clear styles and "agendas" of gameplay. Ultimately, this comes down to your exact use of the term "agenda" as it applies to ttrpgs...

Hard to avoid politics with this one :rolleyes:

I knew you'd respond with those and based on the conversation I was having upthread, you're incorrect: The original description was "different approaches, different focus, different styles". None of the rpgs you listed fit that description, from a pure design perspective. They're all...

Actually, if everyone's a superhero, everyone's a superhero

Care to name a few?

5e-compatible works. It's a fast system that's spawned some popular hacks like StarWars5e and Everyday Heroes.

GURPS Dungeon Fantasy: for groups that want deep characterization, fast gameplay (3d6, roll under skill), and a system that easily emulates any genre of fantasy Barbarians of Lemuria: for groups that want fast gameplay (2d6 + ability, roll 9+), narrative-driven action and a versatile DIY magic...

That's long enough to make my point ;) You can assume that, but it wasn't written that way. He was making an entirely different point you may have missed. And yes, there have always been other games, but there hasn't always been ttrpgs that played distinctly different than D&D.

If this were true, it wouldn't be as popular - marketing can only buy so much. The true beauty of D&D is GM Fiat: we can make the game do whatever our groups want to (within reason) and WotC can't change that (y)

Two hours? I've been in parties that spent longer than that buying gear at the local market :ROFLMAO: How big is your "sandbox" (village, kingdom, hex)?

"Actual Play" has been a thing since at least the late 70's, long before the "5th Generation". You could argue the entirety of the OSR, with its focus on clearer, cleaner rules making the GM's job easier. I'd argue that there was a time when there weren't multiple alternative games with...

The 5th Generation is long overdue, especially after dealing with D&D 4e & 5e. Games that make the GM's task easier means more games being ran for more players: a win for the overall hobby (y)

Sold. Been a TC fan since forever. Just hoping the system is fast and fun and has rules to create our own original PCs :love:

Both are considered valuable assets in their industries, so not as trivial as you make them out to be. But I get it (y)

The "balance" is in how the GM designs the actual campaign, so that each PC (regardless of power level) has some impact - not in every scene, but in the overall campaign. No game is going to make sure all the effects are equally effective. It's like chess: a pawn will never be as effective as...

Bookscan is just numbers and ICv2 just reports on those numbers. Can't refute numbers without alternative numbers - it isn't enough to just say "Trust me, Bro" :ROFLMAO: That's what your "article" is doing.

Oh it's an issue, whether you understand it or not https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PowerCreep And I just posted a thread from EnWorld with people complaining about D&D 2024's encounter design system. So you're purposely closing your eyes to something that is real, whether you want...

Sure there is: ICv2 and Bookscan. Most people that have access and study the numbers know the reality of things ;)