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    D&D 5E (2024) Current Stealth Rule Actually Works As Is. If Moving Out of Cover After Hiding Makes Enemies Immediately "Finds You", Hide Would Be Totally UNUSABLE.

    Rolls are only called for if the outcome is in doubt. If I hide behind cover and then stroll right up to a guards face, there is no doubt about the outcome, they see you. Same as if I walk up to an unlocked door and open it. If I as a player, instead say that I'm trying to time my sprint past...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Current Stealth Rule Actually Works As Is. If Moving Out of Cover After Hiding Makes Enemies Immediately "Finds You", Hide Would Be Totally UNUSABLE.

    With the caveat that I may change my mind after I get both the PHB and DMG in my hands, my sense now is that the rules for Hiding and the Invisible condition work quite well without errata or house rules, thanks in large part to the thoughts in this thread of @Kinematics @Maxperson and...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Learning to Love the Background System

    I think it makes a lot of sense to not open up backgrounds in the PHB, as a way to make things easier on new DMs. I'm sure most experienced DMs will open up the choices to their players if they ask for it. And also, the restrictions can lead to some interesting combos, like a Rogue with the...
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    D&D 5E (2024) 2024 Spell Changes

    Feeblemind is still available via the 2014 PHB since there is no 2024 spell with that name, correct? Re: Spirit Guardians - I've never considered the spell to be an issue with encounter building and love the idea of the cleric holding a Dash to move around on another turn and hit enemies with...
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    D&D 5E (2024) New stealth rules.

    I think the 2014 PHB sidebar on hiding might provide insight here. Will be interesting to see if there is a similar sidebar in either the 2024 PHB or DMG. In combat, most creatures stay alert for signs of danger all around, so if you come out of hiding and approach a creature, it usually sees...
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    D&D 5E (2024) New stealth rules.

    @Kinematics so I think I've come around to how you are thinking on this. Was thinking about how Hiding is handled in BG3, which is very similar to the 2024 rule set. In BG3, once you've hidden, your character can move around as far and as long as you want, until one of the following happens...
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    D&D General How to be a Not-Terrible DM: Thoughts on the Upcoming DMG

    Did not see the text under the spoiler, but my point still stands that the better comparison would be to a would be director watching a Hitchcock film. If you're in high school doing productions with your friends, you won't have access to world class actors, world class technical teams and...
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    D&D General How to be a Not-Terrible DM: Thoughts on the Upcoming DMG

    @Snarf Zagyg think you really missed the mark on the Critical Role comparison to the adult film industry. I'd more likely compare watching CR for a would be GM akin to watching Spielberg/Fincher films for an aspiring director or reading Sanderson/Jordan for an aspiring fantasy author (or to...
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    D&D 5E (2024) I just got a 2024 PHB From Gen Con. AMA!

    I don't think so. You can't use the Magic Action when you action surge or with the extra Haste action. So looks like you're limited to 12 (if you can replace both attacks with cantrips, I'm not sure on that part).
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    D&D 5E (2024) New stealth rules.

    Wow! That is a very interesting change to the rules of 5e. Gonna have to think through the implications of this.
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    D&D 5E (2024) New stealth rules.

    I'd certainly be good with all of these rulings as a player, it's all reasonable. And I don't think that the rule 'needs' to be changed. There are plenty of DM tools to resolve the kinds of edge cases we're talking about without falling into absurdity. I'm only suggesting this as a potential...
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    D&D 5E (2024) New stealth rules.

    I'm only saying that there is no need to specifically provide the Invisible condition when sneaking past guards. DM says "You approach the gate to the interior of the Bandit Camp, two guards are busy playing Three Dragon Ante by the oppening, what do you do?" PCs "Let's sneak past them while...
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    D&D 5E (2024) New stealth rules.

    No, but a single skill can be applied to multiple situations. The Hide action is one way to apply the Stealth skill, not the only way. Are you saying that you can't try and stealth past the guards if you don't start in 3/4 cover or in a heavily obscured area? The Hide action has specific...
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    D&D 5E (2024) New stealth rules.

    @Kinematics but how do you determine when you are found? What I'm trying to solve for is how to allow the invisible condition for it's basic purpose (Surprise, Adv on attack, avoiding opportunity attack) w/o an additional roll to resolve the uncertainty that is there if you move out of your...
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    In-Depth Review of Quests from the Infinite Staircase

    For sure, and I love that his motivation is to collect interesting stories, which of course ties right in with why we play the game!
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    In-Depth Review of Quests from the Infinite Staircase

    Never played any of these back in my 2e days, and am having a blast now running The Lost City for my group of 2 verterans and 2 complete newbies. Everyone dug the initial setup with the staircase, which allowed the group to come together without the PCs having known each other previously. Not...
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    D&D 5E (2024) New stealth rules.

    Freaking fantastic use of the scene! Love it! I think you've got the Hide action right on when they go into the smuggling compartments, and also how they subdue them after with advantage. Where I would differ with your breakdown, is that after that, the invisible condition no longer comes...
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    D&D 5E (2024) New stealth rules.

    Exactly! And, like yelling to a friend, if you move from your hidden position you may also make enough noise to qualify. You didn't make the Dex check when you were moving, you made it when you were standing still behind or in cover. Movement is a change to what's happening in the scene. My...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Current Stealth Rule Actually Works As Is. If Moving Out of Cover After Hiding Makes Enemies Immediately "Finds You", Hide Would Be Totally UNUSABLE.

    Except with the new actions, they can. It's one of the biggest rule changes in 2024 that players can now take an action that directly results in an abiliity check both in and out of combat. Now, Influence or Search as actions don't have the absurd results of Hide, because they require specific...
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    D&D 5E (2024) New stealth rules.

    Right, I wouldn't bog down play with an acrobatics check every 5 feet or a stealth check every 6 seconds even though RAW I could. I ask for Ability checks to abstract many small things going into what the players are trying to acomplish when they tell me what they are doing in response to the...
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