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  1. Obryn

    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    Oh, the first sentence was just playing on your statement that "not all things are equally unrealistic" and then proceeded to laud the reasonability of dragons. :) It was a hilarious juxtaposition, from where I'm sitting. Again, "lore" is the emperor's new clothes. It's a series of decisions...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    If you are arguing that dragons are more realistic than strong women - lore or no lore - then I think you have your priorities mixed up. :) Dragon's aren't explained in the game lore in any way that - if you dig deep enough - doesn't boil down to "Uh, this is a fantasy world and not Earth...
  3. Obryn

    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    Sure they can. I don't know where people got the idea that saying sexist or racist crap is okay, but calling out racist or sexist behavior is beyond the pale. It's absurd and juvenile. A game is not reality. An RPG is a set of decisions about how to model a reality. Any decisions made about...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    So I think it's pretty silly to go around in circles, particularly where I'm put in the awkward place of supporting 5e game design, which I think has plenty of problems (just, you know, not specifically here). But we're not both correct, given how gameplay and the narrative that develops from...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    Nor anyone else for that matter, and the function of the rules seem to imply that that's fine enough to qualify for high stats.
  6. Obryn

    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    Or it's a lot of judicious use of a halfling's strength which they've (athletically) trained at, for precise and focused use of their 'raw physical force' while living in a big peoples' world. I already covered how climbing, swimming, and even jumping are no big deal - all of which are covered...
  7. Obryn

    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    It's about what you make a conscious decision to model in your abstract elfgame. It's deciding what's important enough to you that you elect to write it up, spend ink and pagespace on it, and codify it as a default rule of a game which will probably also include such nonsense as hit points...
  8. Obryn

    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    A third option, of course, is that the ability scores don't line up to precisely what you're expecting, or cast a broader net than you're implying. Frex, Strength is "bodily power, athletic training, and the extent to which you can exert raw physical force." Apart from attack and damage...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    I'm not much bothered by the specifics of the differences. I'm perfectly content with substantial gaps and even completely different rule sets. As I see it, the game mechanics aren't about chandlers, bookbinders, and farmers, so I'm not concerned one bit if they use their own vague stuff or...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    Forgive me if I have it wrong, but looking at where you're posting from, I think a language barrier might be in play. Because you're using a lot of terminology that is loaded for a native English speaker. You're speaking about your non-preferred playstyles like they are for children and that...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    Well, they're the ones that go out adventuring. Which self-selects for adventure-capable prowess and unusual 'black sheep.' So yeah, they're exceptional, but just kind of naturally so, which we represent with good stats, plenty of HP and - most importantly - a character class. How do we know...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    It looks to me like the actual NPC creation rules are "Just assign stats as you see fit" with that being an option. This is such a weird combination of mischaracterizations, slippery slopes, and strawmen that I almost don't know what to make of it. Literally nobody is arguing any of this...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    I'll go further and point out that the character creation rules aren't even describing average halflings. (Those are on p345 of the Monster Manual under "commoner" :)) Let's talk about Malazan Book of the Fallen, which has male and female Marines working with each other in the same units, for...
  14. Obryn

    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    Then that's an entirely different argument, don't you think? You can have your own opinions on whether or not you miss the racial and gender stat maximums, but you can't say that the text of the 5e rulebook supports your conclusions when it does nothing of the sort. FWIW, this is not horrible...
  15. Obryn

    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    You're making an argument that "the game text doesn't back up halflings being as strong as half-orcs." Unless you can point at a rule or guideline that supports your claim, the actual text of the game book says you're wrong.
  16. Obryn

    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    Nonsense. Pure balderdash. Of course it does. The game text explicitly allows halflings to be as strong as half-orcs.
  17. Obryn

    D&D 5E (2014) Do you miss attribute minimums/maximums?

    I have to wonder every time I see someone say something like this. I'm 42, started gaming in '82 with the Moldvay Basic set, incorporated AD&D stuff in that weirdly quintessential early 80's mishmash it sounds like most people did, never even touched an MMO, and am just seriously happy that the...
  18. Obryn

    D&D 4E Core 4E vs. Essentials

    Got it. And I think that's a danger, depending on how integrated they are into the world. My last 2 4e games - lasting 6-7 years or so - have used the Dark Sun themes, and the Zeitgeist themes. And both are well-integrated into the setting lore, and really serve to flesh out the characters. So...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Mearls on other settings

    There aren't any paladins in 4e DS. Elemental Priest was a theme, and worked just great with the Shaman class. A whole Elemental Priest class would have been neat to see, sure, and I think with some work they could have reskinned the Cleric pretty well. But as it stood, "No Divine classes" was...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Mearls on other settings

    You do understand that you're acting as an example to Remathilis 's point, not arguing against it, right? A well-done remake will cast the original in a different light, and give a different perspective on it. Like seeing one stage play, but performed by different theater companies.
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