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Sigh, I see this have developed yet into another edition war. Well if you want guns they will be included in the Adventurer's vault coming next month. And as for gun being included in the DMG, well IMHO there is no need for that. This is not Boot Hill nor Gamma World. If you want guns for...

Really? Is this your best example against minion use? This has nothing to do with minions, this is just a bored player acting OOC and silly to sabotage the mood of the adventure. If you don't trust your GM why play with him at all? And you said it correctly it's a "cooperatively playing a...

Duh!! I totally missed that. Oh well carry on, nothing to see. What can I say ? Great Wormy fans think alike?

FYI there is a thread in RPG.net that does exactly this. Perhaps you can look it up for a different perspective and inspiration.

GELFLIN!!! Nagpa by Ripvanwormer Medium Monstrous Humanoid Hit Dice: 1d8-1 (3 hp) Initiative: -1 Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares) Armour Class: 17 (-1 Dex, +8 natural), touch 8, flat-footed 18 Base Attack/Grapple: +1/-1 Attack: Staff -1 melee (1d8-1) or bite -1 melee (1d8-1) Full Attack...

This maybe your problem, the level 4th brute is not a level 4th brute to a level 10 wizard, but a level 4th minion at least, most of the time it should only be a narrated encounter with no actual dice rolling. You keep missing the point that opposition is relative to the players, and by the...

IIRC Hit points have a lot of different definitions in D&D (fatigue, actual wounds, health, structural integrity, wear & tear, etc.) so why assigning minions an undetermined amount of hit points so difficult to incorporate in a game? The abstraction is already there, why not go a little further...

Well that question has different answers depending on your GM style: 1) IF he is a level 15 skirmisher he would have 8+con+(8*level) hit points. (pag 184 DMG) 2) He doesn't have hit points, a level 15 demon vs a level 5th party is a plot device. 3) As many as he wants!!!! Am I right?? XD

THis is a very good article, thanks for posting this.

I am gonna assume you posted this in jest. If by any chance you didn't well consider this: Its not that their hit points were lowered form 50 to 1, it just means that the player character inflicted 50 points of damage regardless of the actual damage rolled on that hit. That's the nature of...

A part of me still wants Golarion as a system neutral setting. Is it wrong to want this for other games like Runequest?

My first look at minions was with fengshui way back when, I own Bushido but never played it. I may just dig it up just to read about how they handled them.

I read somewhere that you could actually treat any creature 5 levels lower than pcs as minions.

In your fireball example: The fireball did do damage to the minions, it just didn't do enough to kill them. Remember that the 1 hit point is just an abstraction. Minions don't have 1 hit point, they are assumed to have as many hit points as your attack did in damage. So when you miss your...

Okay, so I have read a lot of thread that casts several different perceptions of what are minions. Lets talk about our perceptions of minions and compare, try to reach a consensus. I'll start Now what's your view on minions?

I dont suspect anything, I just stated a fact that the poll could be rigged, that notion alone invalidates all the results be they true or false to the actual reality. No more hypothesizing, we have had enough of that in this thread. You are free to have your opinion of the results. You...

This. Just take a break man.

Its a very sad day when a gamer of 30 years has to abandon D&D just because an edition change. I don't even know how to address this statement, it's totally wrong to my perspective. As for the OP and the interview: It was a very informative interview, and actually made me understand a lot of...

Just have fun with the game. This 'edition wars' is all a fad and it will pass, like everything else.

Your perspective on the events that transpired seem askew. Actually I just asked you: Well since you took time out to count and check all my posts, you should have read them as well. I disagree with the methodology ,also it was proven you could vote more than once. Hence: You cannot...