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I loved 3E. Still do. If they could have fixed the reliance on magic and the high-level play, that is what I would have preferred. Not sure if that's a "tweak" or not. And that's where house rules and revisions and what-not fail for me; I don't think bandages can save 3E. It had a great life...

Dude, you just made my day. I was giggling soda out my nose on that. But, to your point, it's hard being the "odd man out". I ran an semi-evil themed campaign a couple years back and one guy was the only "do gooder". He did it to flex his RP muscle, but he ended up retiring that character...

Or another observer is incapable of understanding they really, truly are no different. Quid pro quo, Joe. Quid pro quo. WP

Are there balance issues, per se, if you allowed all characters to treat their class powers list much like a sorc did his spells in 3e? Meaning: You still get a set number of powers to use per day/encounter, but you get to choose them "on the fly" or, perhaps, memorize them in the morning (or...

You picked the wrong thread for that. :) WP P.S. Eridanis' sig makes me giggle, and I don't know why. P.P.S. Anyone have any evidence of someone actually changing their opinion with respect to 4e sales? Seems to me the folks who say it's not selling never change their tune, and the folks who...

I have done many, many different flavor themes for classes (though none approach the Fastball Special :) )...but this isn't me we're talking about, it's my players. I can't force them into it - they need to want to do it. Both are fairly hack n' slash types - which is fine. With that mindset...

I can see your (Doc Proc and Prec App's) points, and you make some good arguments. In fact, I don't think I can defend my gut feeling with logic because it's probably illogical in the first place. Nonetheless, 4e (while the best version of D&D yet) still seems a bit...limited. Most of the...

All - I realize this is probably in the wrong forum, but I feel it could be so beneficial for some many folks that it's worth trumpeting. Also, I realize some/most of you may know about this - but everyone should be able to participate in the goodness that is... Asmor's Site. First, you get...

Sorry about that. I agree. WP

Anyone trying taking a "gestalt" approach and merging the classes down into the various power sources? One of the issues I have with 4E is the limited choices, per level-up, of powers. And I also dislike that our two 5th level fighters are nearly identical (i.e., there's always an 'optimal'...

Never tried with the PF stuff, as I didn't get it. But converted the end of Savage Tide - a blessing, since high level play was giving me a high level migraine. I think it's generally easier to go from 3E to 4E than the other way around, so you should be OK. Obviously, the best thing would...

And you, sir, have re-established my faith in the internet and message forums in particular. Thank you! I would have spent weeks trying to figure that out. T.Foster: I'm not sure it's even a "good" adventure; I just remember it fondly from childhood as it was the first time I jumped off the...

I haven't seen it, but it looks like the new movie Role Models is going to have a sterotypical D&D geek in it. The same kid who played McLovin in Superbad. Climax of the film is a LARP-like event. Specific review quote: More info at this site: 'Role Models' - Los Angeles Times WP

I'm sorry to thread hijack, but I figure if anyone knows the answer to this question it's T. Foster, and I was hoping he'd pop back in here. Question: There was an old module (I think it was a Role Aids module?) that was the first, as far as I know, to depict a dungeon in isometric fashion...

I'm not sure I get what your point is, but 4E could not exist in 1974. It's the result of 30+ years of RPG development. Whether someone agrees with all facets of that evolutionary outcome is personal choice, certainly. As for whether D&D is a gateway to other RPGs - it absofrigginlutely is. If...

DaveMage, good answer (on the "why do some folks want 4e to sell poorly" question I asked). Those answers make sense, even if I don't like the motives behind them. To the other point in this thread: The reason why people don't question Mona about PF's sales, and yet jump all over WotC, is the...

What gets me is not whether 4e is selling like gangbusters or not, but why any gamer would hope that it's not. I just don't get that mentality. The numbers - what little we have - indicate that it's selling very well. Good for everyone. Why argue them? What's the agenda behind the nay-saying...

While I agree with every point you make, and thank you for making them in a logical fashion, I'm not sure I agree with many ways they were "fixed" in 4e. In particular, I find the multiclassing in 4e to be underwhelming at best. I also loathed the class marginalization that occurred in 3e; as...

I would have said that before I played 4e, and indeed I did. What I'm finding, however, is that it may be one of those 'watch what you wish for' things. I could not STAND the fact in 3e that certain classes became all but marginalized as one climbed the levels... ...and I have received the...

1. Rekindled my groups' interest in D&D, and brought back some old 1E buddies. 2. Made me want to DM again. 3. Concentrated on gaming around the table, as opposed to optimization away from it.