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  1. Tovec

    Working in the Game Mine

    I haven't demonstrated that roles are different from classes? 4e Classes have roles. 4e Monsters have roles. 4e CHARACTERS (which is where I would draw the comparison to monsters) have roles and classes. Granted they have a role Because the class but they still have both. When the role is all...
  2. Tovec

    Working in the Game Mine

    This post was going to be ungodly long unless I cut things out. Apologies in advance if I cut something significant. I'm going to cover this all at once, for both of you. Monster classes/levels (including giant levels/HD) ARE a construct that exists in 3e that I haven't seen in the 4e monster...
  3. Tovec

    Working in the Game Mine

    Base Human in 3.5 (as per SRD) Humans Medium: As Medium creatures, humans have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size. Human base land speed is 30 feet. 1 extra feat at 1st level. 4 extra skill points at 1st level and 1 extra skill point at each additional level. Automatic...
  4. Tovec

    Working in the Game Mine

    Missed a few in between, I'll catch up. EDIT: Take a look at @JamesonCourage and @Aberzanzorax 's last couple of posts they are great too. I think you answered your own question. Without wizard levels we KNOW EXACTLY where the elf starts. We have an elf race. We have elf racial stats. We can...
  5. Tovec

    Working in the Game Mine

    As I tried to explain - one way has a BASE ogre and one doesn't. If I take the thief-ogre and remove his thief levels and put in cleric then I then have a cleric-ogre at roughly the same level. If I have to rebuild the entire monster because ALL his levels are lurker then it is harder to tell...
  6. Tovec

    Working in the Game Mine

    Because the human fighter is a class and not a role. Because the "role" of defender doesn't affect its stats the same way as "fighter" does. I'm fine giving ogres class levels to customize them in that way. I'm fine giving other creatures class levels to define them in those ways. I dislike...
  7. Tovec

    Working in the Game Mine

    Characters are defined by their class. But monsters defined by roll isn't exactly the same. Classes are defined by roll too in 4e are they not? Monsters are defined (or should be) by what kind of creature they are. Roles do not articulate that well. Also, it is prescriptive when the...
  8. Tovec

    Pathfinder 1E Pathfinder, where to start?

    I would start here: http://paizo.com/store/downloads/pathfinder/pathfinderRPG/v5748btpy89m6 I'm surprised no one has posted it yet. Start with the conversion document to see WHAT is different. It doesn't give all the changes but it gives a good sense of what they tried to change overall. Then...
  9. Tovec

    Rule-of-Three: 07/10/2012

    My question is what happens if you want to run a game that is SHORTER than they planned for. Too often I am in the position where I'm NOT having the party do 4 encounters a day. Instead they'll usually crank out one maybe two (typically they are larger but that is really irrelevant) and then...
  10. Tovec

    Working in the Game Mine

    Because the concepts of roles are so easy to understand and follow? Not only do you have to understand what a Controller does and what its strengths and weaknesses are. But you now have to understand how to use those traits in combat and pick from a list of similar controllers (because each stat...
  11. Tovec

    D&D 5E (2014) The Door, Player Expectations, and why 5e can't unify the fanbase.

    EDIT: I give up completely. This reply just doesn't want to be posted.
  12. Tovec

    The Flight Topic.

    Not that I particularly disagree but.. It depends on what you mean by unaided. And what you mean by fantasy literature. How often does transmutation to give somebody wings show up? Or to transform them into a creature with wings. Both would be acceptable variations on the "fly" spell to me and...
  13. Tovec

    How would you make a dragon hunting expedition?

    Mustrum_Ridcully :) It happens, play it again - that's what I did. I kept trying different options to see what would happen.. its strangely addictive. Oh, and you certainly shouldn't try playing their other multi-choice games.... but if you do, I like broadsides and the vampire ones more than...
  14. Tovec

    How would you make a dragon hunting expedition?

    You want twists and obstructions then the best idea (to get ideas) I have is to play this through.. Multiple Choice Dragon Game | Choice of the Dragon Beyond that, I really like everyone's suggestions.
  15. Tovec

    The Flight Topic.

    In practice I don't really see them flying differently. I'm not saying they shouldn't be different but any existing rules I've ever seen (with the exception of niche circumstances) have them flying about the same and certainly over the party's head. Unless there is a tight hall that the dragon...
  16. Tovec

    D&D 5E (2014) The Door, Player Expectations, and why 5e can't unify the fanbase.

    I did get your point. Mine is still as I said. 1 - there are more than two sides. 2 - your breaking point is climbing a wall, seriously? 3 - I don't see a whole lot of people on either "side" making this the dividing issue. I don't see it as the defining issue because there ARE very simple...
  17. Tovec

    D&D 5E (2014) The Door, Player Expectations, and why 5e can't unify the fanbase.

    Just got caught up so I apologize if some of my points have been covered. WarlockLord I just want to say a few minor things. First, "two sides" don't exist. WotC is trying to reach further back than 3.5 and 4e, and even if we just counted 3e and 4e we are looking at AT LEAST 5 different...
  18. Tovec

    Skill Checks

    In cases such as stealth checks, the stealth sets the DC. You don't have to sneak past a perception of 16, but a perception roll of 16 is needed to see the guy stealthing. So the reason you couldn't find the section that covers who wins in a tie is because it is an implied rule as opposed to...
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    What makes an iconic D&D villain?

    The best villains seem to have goals and motives. This is true not just for DnD villains but all truly great villains. Beyond that there is very little that make them long lasting or epic. They can be hands on, or aloof. They can direct things from the battlefield or from their throne room...
  20. Tovec

    Complex fighter pitfalls

    Just thought I'd clarify a few points with which you seem to be confused. If dragons are supposed to be invulnerable to fire but suddenly start melting with random magical fire (for no reason) then it is an issue. If they aren't then it is a non-issue. The problem arises when we get into...
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