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Great treatise. But it says if you resume breathing during the spell, you fall unconscious, to 0 hp, and start dying. That was sort of the impetus for my question. If you start breathing again, you don't just reset the breath counter. You die.:)

Re: Re NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't do it! You don't understand! That's how this horrific, train-wreck travesty got started! See the first post! "Let's have a poll", you think. "It'll be fun" you think. It's madness, I tell you, madness! Don't give in! But hong's...

I'm honestly just curious about this, since you've said it in every Miasma thread. You don't think that coughing and choking counts as 'voluntary resumption of breathing' ?

w00t Fark. Every time you use a cliche................

I'm sorry, but this just isn't correct. What Pielorinho said was right. A 3rd level rogue gets Uncanny Dodge, which prevents him from losing his Dexterity bonus when caught flat-footed or struck by an invisible attacker. Even though the rogue is considered flat-footed at the beginning of the...

*SHUDDER* What was that? It felt as if the ghosts of a thousand creatures, lead by the voice of a Mature Adult White Dragon, cried out in protest, and were silenced. Must have been nothing...............;)

SHOOSH!!!!!

One could say that it makes it sound like ET cannot be used at all. But one would just be building more arguments then. :D

Well, shows what you know. As the voices in my head have clearly stated, I'm 100% perfect. sheesh, some people.

Son of a................... :eek: WOW. For those of you watching, just remember: Most people on the internet aren't this big. They would grab the offered apology and scurry into the night. Caliban rocks. Let peace endure. :D :D :D Edit - and I take back the whole arrogant and self absorbed...

And I don't believe I've ever seen someone so arrogant and self-absorbed in my entire life. Like I *said*, I'm not trying to tell anyone how to do anything. Just expressing my opinion on quality. I keep myself civilized here, I only hope that others do the same. In any case, I'm genuinely...

You know, I went back and read your post, and you're absolutely right. My apologies. Your assertion is spot-on, although I disagree that arguing for clarity is living in a dream world. Not usually, I'm not being completely rational because I was insulted without cause. One shouldn't post...

This doesn't represent my opinion at all. All I'm saying is the feat is ambiguously written, and that that is not necessarily a good thing.

I'm not the one that jumped into the middle of a perfectly civilized conversation and started insulting people for their opinions. You did.

Wow, that's.............got to be the lowest thing I've seen on *these* boards, at least. Post another argument, give me time to respond, then edit in an apology. I wonder if *anybody* saw that?

You jump in out of the blue with *nothing* but an insult, then claim *I* started with the attitude. Garbage. I *specifically* restrain my self from flippantly insulting people here, because the moderators have made SUCH a big deal about everyone being civilized. I'm partly bringing up your...

Three people, one of whom even *you* don't completely agree with on rules definitions of this very topic. I feel so overwhelmed. I won't claim it's null and void. Just poorly defined, when there is plenty of actual mechanics text they could have used to define it more clearly.

No, I didn't. Not once, not at all. I *cautiously* pointed out what I thought was a flaw, and the responses were: "What the feat does is perfectly clear; you just don't happen to like it." and "Occasionally you have to do some thinking for yourself." The fact that you're trying to claim I...

Wow, I *completely* forgot about that. That makes, like, every complaint I've had in this thread completely invalid. :p Oh, well, at least I provided info.

I don't know *exactly* what your problem is, but I'll leave speculation to another time. If you want a fight, you've got it. Not that it matters. Your legion of worshippers will likely be arriving shortly to blast me with "do you know who you're talking to?" and "you shouldn't be questioning...