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Really? Where? Since I'm the main person who has admitted to favoring 4E since your last post, I'm not sure if you are trying to group me as one of those 4E people or not... I stated already that I don't doubt there are some 4E zealots who take things too far. I also categorized the...

I don't see why it's strange for a 4E fan to mention this at all. The backlash with New Coke was primarily within certain demographic groups, and it really didn't seem to be so much about what it was actually changed into but more about how some consumers saw Coke as something that was sacred...

Conspiracy? No. I think by definition conspiracy implies 2 or more parties working together to some end. I think many of the people here seem to think that it was just one single person who stuffed the ballot box. There may be disagreement as to what their motivation was (to make 4E fans...

This interpretation is in line with what I said my perception and experience in this "war" has been. The hate really does seem to be one-sided. I imagine there has been rudeness, hostility, and even valid criticism from both sides, but the outright hate of the actual systems is really aimed at...

Wait a minute... you are telling me that 4E critics are more likely to criticize based on the game than the players, while at the same time generalizing those who prefer 4E as players who are defensive and criticize the players rather than the game? I can't help but think that there's a...

I hate to use the word "hacker"... I think that gives them credit for too much skill. I lean towards believing it was someone who was just trying to stir up trouble given that it's been my experience that edition hate has been kind of one-sided... I hear a lot of hate towards 4E, but I don't...

The loss of 2 pages of rules that the general consensus here feel were unsatisfactory seems to pale in comparison to 4E's emphasis on encouraging treating the rules and mechanics as a framework to reflavor and customize. 4E has a good balance between races and classes, in their respective...

This has been my perception of things as well. I've played D&D casually in various forms for 20 years now, and 4E is definitely my favorite. I can still criticize some elements, and it's not perfect, but I have no interest in playing previous versions any longer. However, it feels silly to me...

I only had 4E come up in conversation with a stranger one time, and there was definitely some negativity. The thing that really got under my skin was that he obviously knew next to nothing about the game, hadn't played it, but constantly was bashing it with phrases that were straight from the...

If I'm going to buy 3rd Products, they are going to either be Adventures, or maybe an accessory of some sort. Honestly, the flood of really spotty quality OGL books in 3E really turned me off from a lot of 3rd party products. They too frequently seemed to be filled with poorly written source...

I'm no 4e designer, but it seems pretty obvious what their logic was. Almost every class has either 4 or 5 starting skills, and the distinction between getting 4 or 5 seems so trivial, I doubt that even a developer could answer that other than with something like, "it felt right at the time"...

But only actual healing causes aggro, overhealing is aggro neutral!

That's funny because I was thinking of using D&D miniatures and monsters as Agricola people. ;-) I just played this game last weekend at Dragon*Con with a group of strangers. It was the first time playing for each of us, and we all loved it! I liked it so much that not only have I since...

That's also true... the notion of waiting until over the age of 18 is a pretty modern notion. Wives might be 13, 14, or 15 a mere century ago. The real irony is that supposedly modern teens reach physical maturity at a *much* faster rate than during those times as well.

As much as it may not be what you really want to hear, the previous answer of "as many as you want" is really the single best answer here. Population growth formula is not going to follow some exact formula, especially for 1,000 years. It will vary on such a ridiculous number of factors given...

Fair enough. It was never my intention to derail the thread, and my apologies for inadvertently doing so. However, I'm not "supporting" piracy here either, and the absolute assertion that it's always illegal is a characterization that is part of this big debate as well... so if you don't want...

While you had many interesting ideas in your post, there were a few problems with some of your arguments. First of all, the intention of copyright is to allow the owner to have a monopoly on their work for a limited time. It was designed to prevent a competitor from profiting from your work...

Spore is a great example of attempts to control a copyrighted aspect backfiring on a publisher. I was one of the people who looked forward to this game for a couple years, who planned on buying it on the release day, and changed my mind *exclusively* based on being VERY unhappy regarding the...

Make up your mind. First you seemed to suggest that they'd rather not get a sale if the sale was the result of piracy, now you say they do want me to buy their books? Do they want my business or not? I also want to point out that I bolded the word "believed", because that's part of what I'm...

I think it's good that we can have a discussion here with someone with a publishing standpoint, and I'm glad that you gave input here. Please note that I never once defended piracy as being "good". I also never tried to argue that piracy has a net positive benefit (I think it's impossible to...