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And once again, easily managed if you set clear expectations to your players as a DM.

You quoted a relevant passage that actually contradicts your assessment. "Kender don't regard their idea of borrowing as stealing, however. If they need something, they'll take it. If they see something interesting, they'll pick it up and pocket it." They don't understand that it is thievery.

Yes...I asked for the quote from Hickman...not from Grubb. You would know this if you read the entire passage instead of cherry-picking your comment to confirm your bias. I had to point out the context. I think this conversation is done. Thanks

I quoted directly from the Wikipedia that you, yourself, linked. Why selectively quote only the part that "defended" your biased interpretation? But yes, "fine lol"...

Your actual quote: "wilder than halflings, fearless, sometimes cruel as only children can be" My quote was from the Wikipedia that you, yourself, linked to. But again...you apparently have no interest in reasonable discussion, so I will stop the discussion with you right here.

Neither are 1e and 2e Kender. 3.5 Kenders? Yeah...did not like their write-up.

Am I the only one who presents all players expectations and guidelines for their games? I know I'm not, because I've played many games where the DM outlines his expectations for his games. This is in no way any different. Your original quote was how they were originally written...they were...

Funny how you are cherry picking your quote....here's the rest of the paragraph. 'The original concept of the kender held that they were "savage, warrior children, ever curious, ever alert." This concept was altered dramatically when Janet Pack became involved in dramatic readings of the works...

I am failing to see how this is a mechanical issue and not a narrative one? I am also failing to see how clear expectations and guidelines wouldn't help with this narrative failing. What is really interesting here as well is the narrative role-playing of helping Kender to understand that...

A "spoilt brat" by definition is a selfish child. These examples clearly demonstrate that Kender are by no means selfish. They have no issue at all being selfless or sharing their items with others...unlike a "spoilt brat." I would very much like to see Hickman's quote about how they are "not...

But that's not how they are portrayed in the books, nor is it how they are portrayed in Dragonlance Adventures and Tales of the Lance: "Kender treasure their friends; if a kender's friends are injured or slain, the kender may become very depressed and upset. Death only seems to affect a kender...

Encouraged? No, not encouraged, not if expectations and guidelines are established. No, not entirely fearless either...it is well established that they are resistant to fear, and are characterized in the novels as being fearless (or rather not understanding what fear is). The reality is that...

Yeah, I don't get the whole hatred for Kender. Never once in my 30+ years of DMing have I ever had a problem with a Kender player. The reason why? I clearly lay out my expectations and guidelines beforehand. Yes, they tend to borrow things they are curious about...they never do it intentionally...

No, they are not immune to fear. There are several times in the books when Tasselhoff was described as feeling fear and being scared. He said that Lord Soth made him feel funny, Raistlin terrified him (Legends), and he thought he was cursed by the dragon Beryl during the War of Souls because he...

I see you've met Hussar...

I am wondering if this "First World" is a means of looping all of the D&D game worlds into a common origin. Would certainly explain Bahamut/Paladine and Tiamat/Takhisis and the fact that all of the major D&D worlds have most of the same types of dragons.

I never had a problem with Gem dragons being in Dragonlance. Sure, they are hidden...dragons existed on Krynn for thousands of years and no one knew...what's to say that the Gem dragons haven't been doing the same. The Gods of Good and the Gods of Evil each have Metal Dragons and Chromatic...

I'm thinking that yes, the Gem Dragons will likely make their debut. Also, probably several iconic and famous dragons...maybe even a few legendary dragons. Alternate dragon features, etc.

I suspect also that there will possibly be Draconians as playable characters.

That was what I was looking for! Thanks!