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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    That's the price for being Lawful Good... it's especially difficult when you see it coming, but you do it anyway. The Book of Exalted Deeds has an interesting section on this issue. It comes to the conclusion that the "means" are more important than the short-term "ends". They argue (as I...
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    It rankles because it’s in no way relevant and shouldn’t have been mentioned. Is it an attempt to establish his credibility as a “moral” person? If so, there’s some serious issues with that… are the rest of us not moral? Is the Christian ethos the standard by which D&D good and evil should be...
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    Wuyanei and I may disagree on some of the finer issues of paladinhood, but he is dead on about the player/DM relationship. I'd follow his advice and carefully speak to the player.
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    Dear lord... Diaglo and I agreeing on something, that's rare. I always thought you were on the "harsher" side of the paladin arguements. Hmm...
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    hehe, point for Peter :).
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    As has been stated countless times by WoTC and others, Detect Evil is not a license to kill. Playing a paladin is a bit more difficult and complex then that. Anyway, I do think J-Buzz is right... both sides have given a good account of their views and it comes down to a DM's decision. I do...
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    D&D long ago gave up any pretence of having a "medieval" mindset. It bears much more resemblance to our own world than it does to the world of 500 years ago.
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    George Orwell wrote about this very thing in his book: 1984. "Imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever"
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    I never mentioned the character loosing his alignment or even his paladinhood over this one action. Like I had posted earlier, I've never had a character loose either over one single action. I do believe that the act was egregiously neutral, and depending on the circumstances... even evil. I...
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    You're correct about that... there isn't enough information to make a clear judgement on that issue. Call it an educated guess.
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    Unfortunately evil doesn't wear a sign announcing itself. The paladin did not bother to find out the circumstances of the halfling and the motivation behind his actions. He hadn't even seen any evidence of wrong-doing: "The paladin grabbed him -- and then learned that just after he left his...
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    I agree. Personally, I have never had a paladin loose his paladinhood (or turn evil) over one action. It tends to be a series of decisions that lead to the change. I could see some actions that would cause an immediate change, but this would not likely be it. It is a step though and as a DM I...
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    Biblical doesn't mean it has anything to do with either good or law... there are many specific instances of parts of it having neither. And when did Lawful Good become about "all about" righteous vengence? That's not in the description of good (not even close) nor in the description of the...
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    Enough of those neutral actions and the alignment of the paladin changes to neutral, and thus he looses his paladinhood.
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    If all a paladin does is simply "not do evil", he's not a good character. He's neutral. The absence of evil or "sin" does not make someone good, it simply makes them not evil. Good is an action, it's an aggressive task that the individual must embark on. If all you do is punish law-breakers...
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    It's not an issue of it being "evil", but not "lawful good". Lawful, does imply some measure of actual following of laws, as stated in the SRD "obedience to authority". I agree that Lawful does not mean following laws without regard to morality (ie good), but that is a double sided blade. I...
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    From the SRD: "Good" implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others. "Law" implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. How do the paladin's actions fall into either...
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    The Paladin killed someone...what to do?

    Most murders, are crimes of passion. I've heard of many hineous and cruel crimes based on love and passion... someone catching their spouse in an affair, or taking cruel and horrible revenge for perceived crimes against a loved one, etc. That passion clouds reason, and the innocent are often...
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    Question for players of Mage the Awakening: I wanna be ignored.

    Yep, sounds like it. Hmm.. someone must have a few more details.
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    Question for players of Mage the Awakening: I wanna be ignored.

    I had played Mage when it first came out, and I recall an ability or power that allowed the character to be ignored. The higher the rating, the more he would be ignored by the "normal" world. At high levels, cameras would not take his picture, etc... I'm thinking of adopting an ability similar...
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