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Pure martial is a silly bugbear with no relevance to archetype and tropes, it’s just “I don’t like how ubiquitous spells are” turned toward a class that almost objectively must be supernatural and mystical, which in 5e means spells. ETA: that is a totally valid complaint about 5e. Just not...

Just jumping back in time to this. Robin Hood has never been a ranger. I would never have remotely thought to build Robin Hood as a ranger in D&D. I wouldn’t even use Scout Rogue, I’d use Thief. Maybe Mc Battlemaster Fighter. But Ranger? Completely different concept.

Okay? So what? What has that got to do with designing a ranger?

Nope. We just aren’t ever going to agree on this. Eh, not a thing I care about. If you’re playing in middle earth it does. He’s using a magical herb to heal someone through magical herb craft, my dude.

No. Magic is not a replacement for science in any setting but Eberron, and even there Druidic Magic isn’t viewed as scientific like arcane magic is. They are different, in the world. The Jedi moves stuff with their mind, leaps and runs super fast, chokes someone out, whatever. Same actions. It...

Support this argument, please? I have no idea where you are getting this. Also, shamans have apprentices. That doesn’t mean they are doing science. Only arcane magic is intellectual, and even then mostly wizardry. You’re inventing problems. Translating from one thing to another doesn’t mean...

The Rangers and Marshals of the Old West were more like D&D Rangers thans Davey Crockett. Crockett is a woodsman, not at all involved in protecting anything. That’s a fighter or rogue with survival and nature skills.

I disagree. Elf magic is intuitive, not intellectual. The distinction between magic as magic and magic as science is important. Agreed. More text than I would use, but we aren’t worlds apart. No moreso than traps.

I like that a lot. I wonder if you could give the Ranger a gnarly “paint the target” spell that could scale well. Like shining smite but bonus damage on every attack against the target, or something. Or just give them shining smite and let them use it with melee or ranged attacks. And tbh...

Sigh…same

@Minigiant Lets pivot to a more fruitful discussion wrt The Ranger. Role in the party, and adversarial challenges that speak to that role. So, one way to get what you want and what I want, is to keep the skill descriptions fairly simple, fairly easy to remember, etc, light on rules strong on...

So, the Ranger’s tropes are magical. Glad we agree on that at least. Anyway, slightly more descriptive text in the rules for skills, more reasonable consumable crafting times and costs (not just a ranger issue), little things like that, would help, and making the NE terrain benefits still...

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Absolutely not. Nothing in any D&D book supports this, and the Ranger fantasy is not this, it is a ranging guardian of the borders of the wild with a mystical connection to nature. Aragorn doesn’t have a science degree, he listens to the earth and knows bloody elf magic (oversimplification but...

I’d take his basic ideas and have the alien sidekick be a conman that slowly turns hero but is never all that cool, Anakin would be around 12 and would be doing escort runs in a old beat up fighter he made from scrap, fighting to be taken seriously in spite of his age. Assuming Maul is one of...

I really enjoyed watching Dimension20 use SW5e to run a “Starstuck Odyssey”, but it does feel a lot like playing SWSE (which makes sense) with 5e character options. I do plan on using basically its ship combat/rules simplified to do airships in Eberron, as the campaign is now in an era where...

No. No no no. Ranger magic is magic. Nature magic. It is emphatically not science. A spell to track better doesn’t need to be written by or for people who understand actual tracking. It just needs to mechanically enhance the ability of the caster to track a creature. That’s it.

Of course you can. No moreso than anyone else. Not pages of rules. I didn’t say anything about hand waving them. Tropes. Not real world stuff. Being able to track anything, being able to calm beast and listen to trees/the earth, knowing the names and uses of every plant and critter, moving...

If the Ranger is made correctly, Magic. Why? Because nature is magic and the Ranger is the nature expert. Even a spell-less Ranger, I’d want to have the ability to counter and otherwise deal with magical creatures, and learning to track magical creatures by the effect of their magic on the world...

Basically Vicious Mockery but with the damage changed to “normal attack damage, +1d4 per tier from level 5 on” Should be roughly as balanced as Booming Blade, tbh. Slightly better than Vicious Mockery, but the weapon cantrips already are. Maybe instead of disadvantage it imposes a -1d4...