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Or you can define the setting first and create, adapt, alter the rules to fit it. See Adventures in Middle Earth for a actual example of this in regards to 5th edition. But if the referee adopts a system 'as is' without doing anything then yes over time the much of the setting will become the...

I view that is a negative as that a convention of the game rather reflecting the reality of the setting. Similarly I am not keen on how mechanics are activated like Second Wind, or the dice pools that accompanies the 5e Battlemaster variant. Both only make sense as part of a game not as a...

Sorry missed it. Vincent Baker's example (AW pp 154-55) Using D&D 5e because know the system. Marie the brainer goes looking for Isle, to visit grief upon her, and finds her eating canned peaches on the roof of the car shed with her brother Mill and her lover Plover (all NPCs). No Difference...

It sorted like if you were there as the character, you check the condition of the warehouses' basement windows before. Or you take your chances. You ask around to see if there is a bribable judge, bribe them and use them to further your goal. They don't need to explain why the +1 because...

Because the focus on creating a narrative (story) collaboratively using the mechanics of a game. Just a wargames is a focus on achieving the victory conditions of a scenario, and tabletop roleplaying is about interacting with a setting as a character with their actions adjudicated by a human...

Articulating one's focus is always a good thing. When it was the early 2000s and the major forums where hitting their strides, it made discussion a lot easier when I said "Hey this was my focus or goal is for doing this." Which helped later when talking about sandbox campaigns in the mid 2000s...

We not talking software but people. People do the actualizing not the mechanics. When mechanics are used it because people chose to use them as the way to actualize the principle. But is not necessary or a requirement but a preference. Well I would suggest you write out to yourself how you run...

Yes the details of the initial situation were established by me i.e. "framed by the referee." However the fact the players were there at all was the result of a two week long discussion about running a session about medieval fantasy. I piped up well I got an adventure that would work. Here the...

I didn't feel attacked but I did think you had a misconception I find annoying as I encountered it many times. If I upset in my response I apologize. Excellent Ok so if I read your post right we are talking about. It about the Score a shorthand for a heist or something similar. A target is...

I don't know how to make it clearer, I am a referee who allows his players to "trash" his setting. That they are free to pursue any goal within the setting as their character that they find interesting regardless of what I had prepared or had conceived. The only limit is what their character can...

Really? That how my point is going to be dismissed? Because I choose to deal with the issue being raised in this thread by having the group talk about and more importantly establishing an atmosphere where everybody feel comfortable pitching in. Definitions and philosophy aside let's talk...

Well putting aside the whole "no this is what really happening with you" vibe of the responses, it all good. I did notice something about your phrasing about the issue that may clarify the disagreement We been talking about games that require a small group of individuals to play. In...

The rules don't tell you what happens when the PCs kills the knight's son in barroom brawl. The description of the knight character will lay out the range of possibilities for his reaction and the resources at his disposal. In addition the details of his culture and society will define other...

I encourage players to ask question about the locale, creatures, and characters they are dealing with because my description are not always complete enough for them to have the information to make a decision. So they ask. With this particular session it was run as a one shot with several...

@Bedrockgames Did you think that you had to guess what my notes were or how I thought about the situation? @Ovinomancer He played in my session.

In a way but not how you are thinking about it. What I do is establish the premise of setting which acts as check on what I can choose later. Every time something happens there is a range of results. If I think a possible result is the most interesting to the players I will pick that. If I think...

I describe the circumstances of the characters and it starts with the initial circumstances after character creation. The players describe to me what they do. I then describe the results often by using the mechanics of the system used for the campaign. I then describe the new circumstances...