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40K and 30K. I suppose you are going to argue that those settings are a parody, or suck, but we simply have no common ground in that case.

Fair, I do believe the Dark Eldar reboot of 5th is the peak of GW work, but yeah I cannot argue with this really. It would be a herculean effort for me to go dig up all the 2e lore, but I'm more talking about tone. The feel of the setting. Like, look at the Squats, as you note. Yes they have...

I admit, a TON of it was set up in 2e, but if I had to bet, hmm some of the art however and now you have me second guessing lol

Got a smartphone? Use social media? We are already there, simply look at China, and the goal is to get that going everywhere.

If the 'good guys can win' and fundamentally change the setting, its not grimdark.

It didnt really change. Yes, 8th was a blip (and a terrible one but we likely hate/like it for different reasons!) but 10th brought us back to where things have really been since 3/4/5th codified the 'modern' setting. Every release, I would go through the novels, the codex, the main book, and...

We live in the dumbest naughty word timeline. EDIT: And...what did I just read. Thats enough for me today.

As an eternal adherent of grimdark, the idea that THAT is what hopepunk is, makes it simply anathema to me anyway. I'm sorry I'm this way.

And all 5e setting "updates" lol

Was running really hot. Like major sweating through my entire leg routine. Weights going up, was some angry lifting today lol. Tomorrow Upper.

The answer remains.

"What's dark sun?" The answer is different today, then i you ask that question after a hypothetical hopepunk retcon is unleashed on the world.

See, that attitude exists because corps are factually ruining the IPs of our childhood. When 40K is finally ruined I will likely slip into a depression. As comical as that is. Anyway, not looking to fight we just disagree.

It really does, but we likely won't agree.

So release a post-apoc setting that is all about that hopepunk ( /dies) vibe, and call it Bright Sun. WHY does it need to be Dark Sun (or any other existing material) that needs to be filtered and changed?

I'll be real. I just want D&D to shrivel up and have the current play base go to other games.

Not their fault, they are forced into it. Yadda yadda. If people want to find issue with 'auto-enemy' they will. "Alas, the poor Lich/Vampire, they only act by their nature!"

My back is crazy sore today, all across the upper back. I have not been this sore in months. I'm hoping this is progress with the new schedule.

Well, I have thoughts on why that may be, but I've been snarky enough for one day!