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I mean this is ONE very narrow way to look at it yes. You even call out another option, Evil Deities. How about straight up Law? Chaos? While you decry 'one way' for Warlock, you seem to be pushing 'one way' for Clerics.

-- On the one hand, your posts should be reported as you are unhinged. On the other hand, I dont want to bother the mods with your insanity.

I'm not sure that it is rare. I would say its an expectation of certain games, or adventure design. Its just that to do it right (for my definition) it takes contribution from everyone, not just the players.

The idea there popped the second I read your description. If on a given read through of an adventure something that obvious jumps out, then yeah I'll add it in as part of the prep. Its a 3 part deal. You have to have players who think about the adventure in that way, the dm has to play into it...

Yeah, I think I got it. I'd add the bit about the skeleton, or some kind of telegraph to put a hit in the players mind that something is afoot. Then you have the back and forth on if they ask questions or not. If instead the Thief or Rogue sticks his head up the chimney? Well, make a save I...

As a DM I may add 'a beheaded skeleton lies before the mantle, legs bent as if in supplication'

Looks really cool, but much to rich for my blood at this point. :D

I gave up on Amazon and Good Reads reviews when I saw some of the scores being awarded to the slop Black Library was putting out, which I paid top dollar for the privilege to read. There are many many many people who are attached to a brand and will give it 4.5 out of 5 just for the fact it...

So I'm curious for those who think 'punishment' of any kind is just a bridge too far. Is this too onerous? Specifically "Do this thing, if you do, you gain a benefit meta currency, if you do not, you give a negative meta currency to the DM."

I mean yeah, but also, tiktok. /shrug

Guy didn't miss.

Right, I already covered that the DM needs to be on the ball as well, just saying that if the adventure isnt supportive, unless the DM rewrites the whole thing, then its hard to get that playstyle out of the players regardless.

Pretty sure I saw somewhere its actually discounted in this format?

Oh, and I'm not keeping up on the thread, but the Adventure also has to support 'Player Skill'. If the adventure is nothing but a door kicking hack and slash and the players are given no options, then the 'Player Skill' style is much more difficult.

Watching something slip further and further away is painful, I get that. We care about these things sometimes more than is healthy. --- Not related to the above, at all. Dude, get therapy. Honest to god you need help.

And how many at 7-10 bringing it up lol It's not a 10, by any stretch.