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  1. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    You're moving towards a different point than the one I was making. My point was in response to Gradine's claim that if someone feels they were harassed, then they clearly WERE harassed. I think that's wrong for the reasons I stated. You're moving the discussion to, "even if a person didn't...
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    D&D 5E (2014) New York Times remembers early days of D&D

    I'm not sure it makes sense to criticize an article in the "retro files" for talking about things that are...retro. It's not like D&D isn't in mainstream media anymore...there's a new D&D movie being made right now.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Gnomes aren't Fey?

    What will you modify to make them fey?
  4. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    You can accept that someone FEELS terrorized without accepting that there is actually any terrorism involved. This is the point several people, including myself, have been making for the past ten pages. Feelings are completely subjective. They may or may not correlate with anything in...
  5. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    For the record, I meant "around him" as, the people who were close enough to hear the comment. Not necessarily his own personal gaming group. I could have been clearer. This is covered by the legal definition of sexual assault, is it not? You grab someone's butt without their permission and...
  6. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    It's certainly not about "women getting their butts grabbed". Not a single person in this thread has defended that kind of behaviour. The discussion, at least for the last several pages, is whether it's appropriate to "ask no questions" when someone says they have been offended or harrassed...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is disarming broken in D&D 5e?

    I know drawing a weapon doesn't count as an action, but wouldn't picking one up off the ground count as one?
  8. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    As you're well aware, "acceptable social norms" are entirely subjective, depend heavily on context, and are not universally agreed-upon. Which is why, if someone accused you of doing something "unacceptable", more information would be required to determine whether what you were doing was, in...
  9. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    Just to make a point, I find your sarcasm and condescending attitude to be "offensive" and "inappropriate". I guess if we were at a con I could have you pulled aside and cautioned, and maybe even sent home if it happens again, without question? You are ignoring the other examples that have...
  10. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    Where are these statistics from?
  11. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    Who gets to determine what is "inappropriate"? That's the problem. Without getting more information, you have no idea whether Bloggins said something worthy of sanction or not. Because they have no way of knowing whether he actually NEEDS to "watch what he says". It's also a problem because...
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    D&D 5E (2014) [Question] Grappling

    Does grappling give a benefit to shoving? Why grapple first?
  13. Springheel

    D&D 5E (2014) [Question] Grappling

    What exactly does "grappling" look like when a humanoid does it? Is it just grabbing someone?
  14. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    Would you prefer the mods act when something is reported without reading the offending posts? That's the equivalent of "ask no questions". And you don't have to look very far to find real life examples of people abusing such systems. Facebook automatically shuts down pages that get a...
  15. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    I didn't read it as "reducing the value of the voice of people who are harrassed". I read it as, "remove the possibility of misunderstanding and subjectivity as much as possible by clearly defining what constitutes "harrassment" at that venue." I don't see how anyone could possibly object to that.
  16. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    You can't be serious. You do realize there are people who get "offended" by the most innocuous of comments? Suppose the woman feels "very offended" because John Doe is playing a female character who the woman decides is too flirty. Suppose the woman feels "very offended" because John Doe...
  17. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    There is a big, BIG difference between offense and harrasment, which I'm not sure you're making allowance for. Offense is inherently subjective. I've already given the example, repeatedly, of people who are "offended" by the things they consider occult in gaming. Suppose one of them were to...
  18. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    The "offensive content" I was referring to is scantily-clad people, which some people find offensive and some do not. You went into non-consensual sex and racist content, which I wasn't defending. I know it's easy for lines to get crossed in 25 page discussions, but I just want to make sure my...
  19. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    Where did I do this, exactly? What I was comparing was a swords and sorcery game that depicted attractive, scantily clad people (which is a particular style of fantasy setting) with a Western or Space Opera game, which are different kinds of settings. I don't know where you got slavery or...
  20. Springheel

    Harassment in gaming

    Sure. I guess what I mean by "attacked" is someone saying, "This game is BAD(tM)" as opposed to, "This game isn't to my taste." There are plenty of games that I don't find appealing--I'm not into space operas, I don't like Westerns, etc. But I wouldn't complain that a Western RPG is wrong to...
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