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If you take the Attack action on your turn, immediately after you can use a bonus action to try to shove a creature within 5 feet of you with your shield. If it was worded like that I would never have started looking for a clarification. To be honest, I wouldn't be here from the way it is...

If you take the Attack action on your turn, immediately after you can use a bonus action to try to shove a creature within 5 feet of you with your shield. If it was worded like that I would never have started looking for a clarification. To be honest, I wouldn't be here from the way it is...

Not my argument, just my observation. And I agree with you that it could have been clearer when written.

Not my argument, just my observation. And I agree with you that it could have been clearer when written.

Just anecdotally, I found for my area, many people read "take a bonus action when you like" and " if you take the attack action you get a bonus shove" as I can shove anytime after I started attacking. This confusion led to people asking online, led to JC agreeing with that interpretation and...

Just anecdotally, I found for my area, many people read "take a bonus action when you like" and " if you take the attack action you get a bonus shove" as I can shove anytime after I started attacking. This confusion led to people asking online, led to JC agreeing with that interpretation and...

I think 5ekyu is just wanting further official clarification on some of the obscure wording or details. Nothing wrong with that and I hope you get it. I also think this has been the case, but I feel like my understanding of both sides of the coin has greatly improved after this debate. So I feel...

I think 5ekyu is just wanting further official clarification on some of the obscure wording or details. Nothing wrong with that and I hope you get it. I also think this has been the case, but I feel like my understanding of both sides of the coin has greatly improved after this debate. So I feel...

Ok, but I could drop the lance and draw my sword then get advantage if I stayed with 5' correct? Not that I would usually want to but it is possible?

Ok, but I could drop the lance and draw my sword then get advantage if I stayed with 5' correct? Not that I would usually want to but it is possible?

If I use a lance while mounted, and have the shield master feat, can I use multiattack as I'm closing on my target from 10' away, then close to within 5' to shield bash and knock the target prone, then action surge, moving my mount back to 10' away, then multiattack with the lance at advantage?

If I use a lance while mounted, and have the shield master feat, can I use multiattack as I'm closing on my target from 10' away, then close to within 5' to shield bash and knock the target prone, then action surge, moving my mount back to 10' away, then multiattack with the lance at advantage?

I think you underestimate the Grappler feat with this class. Advantage on all attacks against a creature you are grappling is huge. It even nets you advantage on a shove since that is a special attack if you want to give your friends advantage. But if the party is more ranged focused and don't...

I will still use it. It's other benefits of protection against spells and AE's are nice. Prone for melee allies is nice, and casters can still do save vs attacks or effects without disadvantage. At higher levels I can still give myself advantage after an action surge. So it's still good.

I will still use it. It's other benefits of protection against spells and AE's are nice. Prone for melee allies is nice, and casters can still do save vs attacks or effects without disadvantage. At higher levels I can still give myself advantage after an action surge. So it's still good.

The end result is the same. Moves 30 feet....check. Made a spell attack with 3 rays.....check......action surged......check.....made two attacks.....check. Did it break the game completely? Nope. Was it fun for the players? Yep. Now if I saw someone trying to game the system every turn? Nope...

The end result is the same. Moves 30 feet....check. Made a spell attack with 3 rays.....check......action surged......check.....made two attacks.....check. Did it break the game completely? Nope. Was it fun for the players? Yep. Now if I saw someone trying to game the system every turn? Nope...

"You can interrupt a multiple-attack action with a bonus action/reaction only if the trigger of the bonus action/reaction is an attack, rather than the action." I read that as "specified an attack, rather than the attack action" which twf does and shield master doesn't. If that is also wrong...

"You can interrupt a multiple-attack action with a bonus action/reaction only if the trigger of the bonus action/reaction is an attack, rather than the action." I read that as "specified an attack, rather than the attack action" which twf does and shield master doesn't. If that is also wrong...

After reading one of JC's tweets concerning bonus action in a multiple attack sequence, I've come to the conclusion that shield master comes after the attacks and can't trigger between. Two weapon fighting can, however, since it states "and attack". Here is the tweet I am referring to...