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I think the OP explains that pretty well. This time many people actually have something to loose, so their emotional reaction is stronger.

Interesting, especially the 2 months timeline. How would you expect that an echo chamber for criticism and praise such as this board affects the changeover process? I would assume that communicating with like minds will reinforce perceived disadvantages of the new make individuals even more...

That is true only for low-level combats. Normal combats in 4th take 30 min -1h regardless of level. So at low levels combat in 4th is a little slower than 3rd, but at high levels, combats are quite faster. In addition, 4th seems to fit the types of combats that you want to run better, as it is...

Tangent: Most of the really broken card ever were in this first set. A deck built only of the first set containing all the jewelery, the blue powercards and double lands will be mightily competitive today and actually blow everything limited to cards from the last 4 years out of the water. To...

I think the smudged ink complaints were mostly about keep on the Shadowfel. I agree with the previous posters, the core books are all that is needed. And while the DMG covers a lot of known ground, it is also one of the best books about game mastering out there. However, as magic items are in...

What's good? which are the adventures worth getting? Thanks

Not sure about that, I have never seen a game improve by many random deaths. However, I am very willing to believe that it makes for a better game if your players think that you do not balance encounters. Hmmm.

Sorry, I obviously wasn't clear enough. i am not telling my players to react. But you know how there are encounter setups that give players no choice? For example, if the PCs are clearly unable to handle the Trolls, i cannot set up an ambush where the PCs are attacked without warning and without...

You are aware that we are in generic edition war territory here? Into the breach: Your argument has two commonly made mistakes: 1) The first mistake is assuming balanced encounters do not mean risk to the pcs. The opposite is true:A balanced encounter is one where there is risk but not...

OK, you may continue to believe that although even low level adventures hand out enough magic to stock a small magic emporium, most of the items listed in an adventure will not be found by PCs that are specialized in killing and looting. However, I hope your arguments made clear to other readers...

I was not assuming the PCs would come back for treasure, I was assuming a scenario where every threat had fled or been killed by the players. At that point the player have ample time to tear the dungeon stone from stone to find every piece of treasure they overlooked before. If we take the...

Based on having played or gmd many of them. And based on remembering how often i removed magic treasures because the adventures were too monty haul for my tastes.

So you are saying all this treasure was in the adventure, but the pcs were not supposed to find it? Furthermore, given that most of the treasure was usually carried by defeated foes or located in treasure piles/chests, PCs loose out little (10-20%) if they do not spend time searching the...

Well, every gm runs his game differently. To get the best evaluation at the level of magical items expected to be looted from an adventure, you really only can look at everything that is available. Dependent on the GM, you will get some proportion of that. And even if only half of all the magic...

Shrug. I warned the players in my game that I tend to be stingy with magic items and that they should not expect level-appropriate equipment. I think 4th handles poverty of magic items better than 3rd or older editions, so i am pleased by that.

Couple of interesting points here If you consider published adventures this is actually false. If you go back and look at any of the 1st ed classics, you will find that players will be veritable Christmas trees after surviving those scenarios. I think your point 2 by itself is not correct...

Fair enough. Although you could argue that the Stat boosters in 3rd are just functionally different as they will increase your ability no matter what the starting value is. Thinking about it, there is no reason not ot include classical Gauntlets in 3.x, albeit as a high level item (~14, maybe)...

Nostalgia is probably the biggest difference, but the presentation in the game books matters too. Modern game books are written to allow quick and easy access to all the game-relevant information, while older game books provide mini-essays on each item. Hence older game books read more...

I must say I enjoyed the Irony.

The problem is, a Fire plane dealing that much damage is a meaningless challenge as there are only two outcomes: 1) The party is underprepared and an instant TPK occurs. This is frustrating and boring as an outcome and will be avoided by both DMs and players at all costs. 2) The party is...