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  1. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) Song of Rest Abuse?

    You do the same thing to prove your point, but you only over optimize bard, not other classes: "Monks typically have 15 AC from what I've seen." No, my friend, you presumed that your bard has 16 of Dex, good Con for HP and dumping Cha isn't a real optimion for bards (check the last 50 posts in...
  2. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) Song of Rest Abuse?

    Where exacly I said there is a "big gap"? Reread all my posts if you want, the only thing I write was "below average" (about 500 times), you misinterpreted because you can't say "yes, you're right, a bard group will stay a tiny line below average in ofense/defense at start lvls. Not significant...
  3. zaratan

    Pact Cantrips in Ravenloft

    yes, means exactly that. Usefull? Would be with command or dissonant whisppers. Really usefull multiclassing as sorcerer to get quick magic, but lots of investment.
  4. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) Song of Rest Abuse?

    At least is fast to reach lvl 3. But if I would make a solo class party, would probably be bard or rogue.
  5. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) Song of Rest Abuse?

    yeah, the problem is until lvl 3 without prof in martial weapons, shields and only light armor. Lvl 6 above is pure magic. And out of combat is just amazing. If they could multiclass in first lvl would be great, for the melee valor bards.
  6. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) Song of Rest Abuse?

    but if you consider OotA, you'll need to run in stealth only. And will be a hard time in CoS. It really isn't that bad, is just below average.
  7. zaratan

    Pact Cantrips in Ravenloft

    appears as ability modifier and spellcasting ability.
  8. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) Song of Rest Abuse?

    I'm not. I already told you: "With multiclass and roll stats, this solve any problem.". Is just a pointless discussion about how full bard group have defense/ofense below average at starting levels. And to compare average, is easier with point buy.
  9. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) Song of Rest Abuse?

    Yes, moderately armor isn't a bad feat, but 95% (or more) of lore bard will not take that, so you can't stablish as standard. You start with leather, not studded leather, maybe not every bard in your party will start with 16 of dex, and being Human V. to get Dex 16, Con 14, Cha 16 at start you...
  10. zaratan

    Pact Cantrips in Ravenloft

    RAW no, spellcasting modifier don't have proficiency and other mods like bless or magic item (except something like headband of intellect, that make your Int 19), attack rolls have. Isn't the same thing. staff and quarterstaff isn't the same thing by RAW, look out with your shillelagh.
  11. zaratan

    Pact Cantrips in Ravenloft

    I believe not. First because wand of war mage only add to +1 to "spell attack rolls", not damage. Second because the GFB text say "spellcasting ability modifier", so a magic item will only add damage to GFB if he add something like +1 to spellcasting ability modifier or spell damage.
  12. zaratan

    Pact Cantrips in Ravenloft

    yeah, my table take preatty serious party optimization. A moon druid grappler with spike growth or moon beam, a sorlock with hex giving desadvantage in check, repealing blast or thorn whip, a polearm master/sentinel fighter with trip attack don't letting the guy get out and a dissonant whisppers...
  13. zaratan

    Pact Cantrips in Ravenloft

    Guidance is always a great choice. with warcaster and a whip (you don't need to be prof with this if you don't attack) you could spam EB. But if you go for Shillelagh you'll want BB and GFB. thorn whip is usefull when your party have many area effect spells. You can use repealing blast to push...
  14. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) Song of Rest Abuse?

    Nah, please, my friend, you forced to much to try to prove your point. No one will want to get moderately armor with your human feat. Valor bard don't need this later and lore bards will invest in something better. With point buy you're a group of 5 guys starting with 14 AC and 10 HP, you can't...
  15. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) The Eldritch Knight...what am I missing?

    or earth tremor if EE is allowed. Or hold person, phantasmal force, suggestion, web, grease, tasha's hideous laughter (not so good option with low int), mounted combatant, and most of all, your party help. You're the damage guy, someone probably will have things to help with advantage (or bless...
  16. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) The Eldritch Knight...what am I missing?

    Great Weapon Master feat. Booming Blade + attack. Your options are go straight as EK until lvl 7 (or 8 if you need one more ASI) and than 3 lvl of sorcerer to get metamagic and lvl 2 spells, now you can twin booming blade and attack one more time, or go up to lvl 11 for 3 attacks and than the...
  17. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) The Eldritch Knight...what am I missing?

    You can start multiclass in sorc at lvl 7, when you can twin booming blade and than make another attack. Your evocation spells like burning hand or thunderwave do damage even with saving, so what is the big difference of +2 Int mod and a 0, if you only use this for minions? Besides, until lvl...
  18. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) Song of Rest Abuse?

    Just a joke, dont take serious. But at low lvls needing to buff dex, cha and con, with only light armor and no shield, no, this team is below avarage. But you start to solve this at lvl 3. Agree that bardic inspiration abuse will cause more impact than songs of rest.
  19. zaratan

    D&D 5E (2014) Song of Rest Abuse?

    With the party AC and HP, they will really need song of rest abuse.
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