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I think @Thomas Shey said it best. There are so many ways to make dungeons threatening and scary and mysterious that Darkvision doesn't interface yet. In real life, walking through a densely packed forest in the daylight can be scary. See movies like THE VVITCH which has some of its most tense...

I think it would behoove you to create some obvious ways for the players to avoid or weaken encounters first, to teach them that such is possible and how to do it. I think sincethis seems to be their second session and their first dungeon you have two choices: Let them take it as is with some...

I think you greatly missed my point. My point wasn't that there are no more dungeons. My point was that dungeons are no longer the dominant paradigm.

There's no sources for most things in this thread, so I'm not about to go out of my way to find any now lmao

It's not negative to say something isn't of extreme importance.

The tables were for rooms, connectors, etc in 2014 DMG.

Hmm no, I don't think so to your second question. Dungeons are usually just one of many locales as opposed to the main thing. And creating a serviceable and fun dungeon doesn't require all the "best practices" be laid out beforehand, because you're essentially just making a flavorful location...

Hmm true. Maybe a Level 1 spell is best for Find Traps then as compared to a cantrip.

The DMG did a great job with dungeons but most people don't use dungeons, so it was a waste of space for most people IMO. I never once used this rolltables, even though I do sometimes use dungeons.

That it's not a necessary skill for most people to learn or be taught.

Popularity is used to discuss logic, not value or quality, when I discuss it. I mention something is popular because that goes on to effect how WotC portrays their game.

I did not attach a value to old-fashioned, my friend. I enjoy dungeons as well. I actually am working on an all-dungeon adventure right now. But it is indeed old-fashion.

If you disagree with the stance of the game, you are free to change that. WotC's logic is this: they are going to cater to the biggest customer base. The biggest customer base has no problem with "push-buttons" in their TTRPGs. If you dont' like it as a push-button, remove the spell or turn it...

Building a dungeon is flatout old fashion. Most people start with an interesting location and maybe a couple of areas at each location. This is also how the starter sets are; they give you some easy locations to start off with. Why? Once you've learned how to run a location, you now know how to...

A cantrip is just a tool. Would you tell someone who uses their ten-foot pole on every hallway not to use it? Or someone who uses rope to climb a cliff?

I think thats fine. Make it have a duration of one hour and have it turn off after the first ping. No different then spamming light.

Its for casting when you enter a suspicious room or area. Should be a cantrip imo.

I'd love that.

Because this thread is about the DMG Micah. What is wrong with you? Are you ok dude???? You literally came into a conversation ABOUT WOTC AND THE DMG AND THEIR PLANS FOR THE FUTURE just to freaking quote me and tell me you don't care about this and why should Reynard? Do you not see how WEIRD...

I don't care that you don't care man. Thanks for telling me but I don't care. My point to Reynard is that WotC is taking this direction. I cannot stress to you how little your preferences on this subject matter to me within the context of this thread.