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Really? Was insulting his players necessary? Come on, man.

Guys, just let it go. Nothing good is going to come from this.

That sounds dumb. I might change my mind seeing how they present it in the rules, but first impression, I'm thinking I'll regret blasts in 4E just like I regretted cones in 3E. I was really hoping blasts would just be a straight line. Bursts be at one square and eminate outward in all...

I don't really want to continue with a discussion of fighting techniques and strategies, especially because I think you're mistaking some of my points (and my tone), no offense. All I'll leave it at is that they've already tried a reasonably complex, theoretical approach to trip in 3E. We saw...

I don't get that. An attacker trips a defender once, so now the defender has figured the attacker out? The defender ignores the possibility of other combat maneuvers because he's convinced the attacker is only trying to trip him now since he tripped him once before? Now we're gonna need a...

So your hangup is on the idea that there might not be a rarely effective trip option explicitly outlined in the rules for everyone to use any time they want? Isn't that something you can easily hand-wave, and allow the designers to use the book space for more important things? Are there other...

Sorry, not believable. No amount of time you take is going to leave you any less exposed to strikes when you try and stand up. The defender is going to have to provoke opportunity attacks when he stands up. And that completely breaks your mechanic. Now you've got an at-will ability that is an...

Would you be okay if the 'real' trip was a per-encounter power, but there was a wildly ineffective option for characters to attempt a trip at will?

Kamikaze, I think we've both made our points to each other, so it's probably pointless to continue saying the same stuff in different ways. We'll just agree to disagree.

I'd very much disagree with this. The idea behind mixed martial arts is to take away the particular limitations of most martial arts. For example, judokas don't strike, wrestlers don't strike, boxers don't kick or grapple. All of these were limitations hardwired into that martial art's rules...

So trained fighters can now attempt a trip not based on any skill of their own, but because of unseen random factors? Imagine the defender standing one very particular way, so the fighter attempts to trip him. The defender gets back up, the two get back into that very particular position, and...

Ok, more than once every five minutes. How much more? Once every six seconds? Because that's wildly ridiculous in a real fight. Once every minute? That's just as arbitrary as once every five minutes. Draw the line. I don't mean to be snarky, but you're acting like the designers have made a rule...

Awesome. Let's hear it, then. What's your perfect fix for this problem? I'm sure whatever you come up with, there won't be numerous ways to distort it to make it unrealistic.

But if you're just looking for ways something can't work, you'll never be happy. Let's keep it the 3E way, where a guy can trip a trained opponent every six seconds. If you've ever seen a real fight, or have any understanding of fighting, there's no way you can 'grok' that; it's wildly...

1) Striking someone's legs doesn't knock someone over. The world's greatest Thai boxers aren't knocking each other over with their powerful leg kicks. And it certainly wouldn't be accomplished by a sword, which is coming in slower and from a higher angle. 2) As for shoves or pushing someone...

To me, that's kinda like saying, "All pizzas have tomato sauce. Boring! I like the idea of replacing it with mustard." Just saying, often times, if something happens a lot, there's a reason for that.

I really dislike the cover. If I was a new player, I can't imagine that cover evoking a sense of wonder in me, even if I liked the genre. They really should have had a multi-racial party fighting an iconic monster, maybe with some treasure nearby.

I can understand why people are disappointed about trip being a per-encounter power. I mean, theoretically, someone in real life could try a 'trip' whenever they wanted. But they've already tried the 'theoretical' approach in the 3E rules. What we ended up seeing is fighters that either never...

Actually, yeah, you've summed it up pretty well. There's two common ways to 'trip' someone in a mixed martial arts fight. A fighter can try and shoot for the legs, essentially almost diving head-first towards his opponent's legs trying to gets his arms around a leg or two and trip him up. What...

But again, even the attempts are hard to come by. A fighter just can't practically attempt a takedown against a skilled opponent whenever he wants because of how easily it would expose the fighter to strikes. And that problem would only be exacerbated if his opponent, you know, was wielding a...